has an assignment for 2 or 3 weeks, he has very good money for it, and then we never know when it is going to come in.
He may have within a year two or three fantastic things--go to Ghana, go somewhere else, and he makes quite a lot of money.
But then maybe a year that he has nothing at all coming in. So he learned when he has something to hold onto it.

Mr. Jenner.

So there were periods when his financial situation was good, so he was high?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes. That is how we took our trip, because we were very fortunate before our trip--he had an assignment in Ghana, and he made some money, and I was making very good money, so we thought we can afford it. Besides he almost lost his mind. We had to go on that trip.

Mr. Jenner.

Then there were valleys, financially, in which you were not affluent?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Of course.

Mr. Jenner.

But you folks were at no time wealthy people?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Real wealthy, no.

Mr. Jenner.

You made----
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I could have been if I saved the money, but I didn't.

Mr. Jenner.

You made a comfortable living, and that is about it?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. That is it.

Mr. Jenner.

But at this particular time, you were not in a position to assist the Oswalds financially in any material sense?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Exactly; none at all.

Mr. Jenner.

But you were in a position that you could afford them time?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

And attention?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes. Not them--actually with Marina, because couldn't do much for Oswald--just talk to a couple of people about him, and maybe get him a job. But even the job he had--I don't know who got it--I think it was an agency that got him the job he had.

Mr. Jenner.

At Leslie Welding?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I don't know the name of the firm. He worked in a darkroom.

Mr. Jenner.

That was later.
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I don't even know the name of it.

Mr. Jenner.

You are not clear in your mind, I take it, that when you first met the Oswalds; you don't know whether you went to their home or----
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I don't remember. I really don't remember. And, believe me, I had enough time to think about it. I was trying to remember every little detail that can be useful. I cannot still remember exactly how it came about-- whether they were brought to our house. I don't think we drove and got them for the first time. Maybe we took them back, you know, to Fort Worth. It could be. I don't know.
Of course, they had the baby with them. They always had to bring the baby-- couldn't leave the baby with, anyone.

Mr. Jenner.

But in due course you did enter their home in Fort Worth?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I never entered their home in Fort Worth. George, I think, did once. George walked in, because Lee was asleep, I think, when we brought Marina--so he maybe walked in the house because he went out to door. I never did. They lived somewhere--there was a tremendous store, Montgomery Ward or something.

Mr. Jenner.

Sears?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. No; I think it was Montgomery Ward. I don't remember. That is where they lived. It was a miserable-looking house. That what I saw. A wooden building.

Mr. Jenner.

You found them to be in destitute circumstances, did you?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Well, I wouldn't say they were completely starving, but they were quite miserable quite, quite miserable, you know. Even if were not destitute, the personality that Lee had would make anybody miserable to live with.

Mr. Jenner.

All right. Tell us about Lee Oswald.

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