information.. By reading the papers and putting two and two together we started wondering, maybe there is something behind it, you see---especially I remember reading in one of the papers that----

Mr. Jenner.

Which papers are these--foreign language papers?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. No; American papers. We haven't read any foreign language papers. We get the Miami Herald, New York Times, we get Haitian papers, French language papers, of course. And I think in one of those papers it was said that Lee Oswald mentioned to his wife before the assassination that he was going to get some money.

Mr. Jenner.

So when you read that article----
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. When I read that article, then the idea started coming--arising in my imagination.

Mr. Jenner.

Assuming the article was correct, that Oswald had said to Marina that he was going to get some money from some source?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; that is right.

Mr. Jenner.

But you knew of no such thing?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. No.

Mr. Jenner.

And you had no hint of it while you knew the Oswalds?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. No; when we knew the Oswalds, they were always in dismal poverty.

Mr. Jenner.

When you visited Dallas at the end of May 1963, before you went to Haiti, did you see the Oswalds then?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. No; I don't think so. My wife will tell you exactly. I don't think we had time to see anybody. We were just packing. As I recall it, I did receive a card, a postcard, from Oswald--I don't remember when--before we left the United States, saying, "We are in New Orleans," and giving the address. And I lost that card.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you write a letter to Mrs. Hugh D. Auchincloss in December of 1963?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; I don't remember the date, but I did write a letter to her.

Mr. Jenner.

From where?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. From Haiti.

Mr. Jenner.

You expressed your sympathy to her with respect to the death of her son-in-law, John Fitzgerald Kennedy?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you recall making this statement in the letter: "Since we lived in Dallas permanently last year and before, we had the misfortune to have met Oswald, and especially his wife Marina, sometime last fall."
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

What do you mean by the misfortune to have met Oswald and especially his wife Marina?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Well, now, since all this happened, it causes--it is not pleasant to have known the possible assassin of the President of the United States. And since he is dead, it doesn't matter. But we still know Marina. We had the misfortune of knowing her--it caused us no end of difficulty, from every point of view.

Mr. Jenner.

That is what you meant by misfortune?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; and misfortune also now, when you look the situation over, it was just a misfortune that we helped them, that is all. We shouldn't have done it. We should have known better. And, actually----

Mr. Jenner.

Why should you have known better, Mr. De Mohrenschildt? What was wrong with what you did?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Nothing wrong. But it is wrong that we were charitable to a person who turned out to be an assassin, maybe.

Mr. Jenner.

But you wouldn't have been charitable if you had any notion he might have been. So what you did was a spontaneous, normal thing of an outgoing person who wanted to help somebody. Is that a fair statement?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; it is correct. But still I regret that I have known him. I shouldn't have been so extroverted.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you recall saying in your letter, "Both my wife and I tried to

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