Give me--I am going to pose a hypothetical to you. Let us assume that a Russian couple would come to Dallas, let us say right now--no friends, not know anybody in Dallas. What would normally happen? As soon as you became acquainted with the fact, or the community--the Russian group became acquainted with the fact that there was a Russian couple?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. They would be exceedingly interested, naturally.

Mr. Jenner.

Curious?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Exceedingly curious.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, if you were there, would that include you?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

And your wife?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes. Well, aside from us--the most curious would be George Bouhe, because he actually met us first--the first in Dallas---he told us about Oswald, as far as I remember. Because he is curious by nature. He wants to know what is going on. He wants to convert them to the Greek Orthodox Church, and so on.

Mr. Jenner.

Would there be any effort to help these people become acquainted throughout the community?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. If they--if that couple came from Soviet Russia, from the Soviet Union, you mean?

Mr. Jenner.

Well, let's assume that.
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Well, the old guard would not do anything. They would be curious, but--they might meet them and very soon afterwards they would get disgusted with them, because what they would say to them would not fit with their beliefs. And we know that Soviet Russia is a going concern. To them it is not, it does not exist. It just isn't there.

Mr. Jenner.

All right. Now, when did you first meet either Marina--I will put it this way: When did you first hear----
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. The first time----

Mr. Jenner.

Of either of these people--Marina Oswald or Lee Harvey Oswald?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. As far as I remember, George Bouhe, who is a close friend of mine, and a very curious individual, told me that there is an interesting couple in Fort Worth, and that the Clarks know them already--Max. Clark and Gali--they know them already. Somebody read about them in the paper--I don't know exactly, I don't remember the exact wording any more that somebody read about them in the paper, maybe Mr. Gregory, and discovered them, made a discovery.

Mr. Jenner.

Now----
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. But we heard from George Bouhe the first time.

Mr. Jenner.

At this time were you aware that there had been an American who had gone to the Soviet Union and attempted to defect to the Soviet Union?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

And that he had returned to the United States?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. That is what I heard from George Bouhe.

Mr. Jenner.

That was the first you ever knew anything at all about----
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I never heard about them, never heard anything about them before.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, is that likewise true of Mrs. De Mohrenschildt?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Same thing. I think we were both together when this conversation took place.

Mr. Jenner.

When did it take place?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I could not tell you the date. I think in the summer of 1962.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, give me your best recollection of what George Bouhe said to you about the Oswalds on that occasion.
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. He said rather a complimentary account of them---I don't think he met them yet. I think he just heard about them.

Mr. Jenner.

It is your recollection he had just heard about them, and heard she is very pretty, and comes from an excellent family---supposedly. And he is a fellow who got disappointed in Soviet Russia and returned to the United States, and that met with George Bouhe's approval--somebody who did that.

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