Mr. Raigorodsky.

Well, he told me that he wants to get in on the ground floor and he has a connection with the top banker in the country who is the Duvalier banker, and that way he will be able to pickup some "juicy plunks" in Haiti. That's exactly what he told me. That's why he wanted to organize the corporation here, you see, to go to Haiti and build plants and help them to develop the industry and reap the profits. You see, it so happened that I believe it is very hard to be a specialist in one line, and almost impossible in two, and my specialty is oil and all my business is in oil. If he came with an oil deal, I might be interested.

Mr. Jenner.

Would you say in describing this man, that he has a sort of an adolescence personality, a fellow who has really never grown up?

Mr. Raigorodsky.

It isn't a sort of---he is adolescent.

Mr. Jenner.

He is adolescent?

Mr. Raigorodsky.

George will never grow old.

Mr. Jenner.

But will he grow up; is he lacking in maturity?

Mr. Raigorodsky.

He always did.

Mr. Jenner.

And things that amuse him are the sort of things that amused us, let's say, when we were adolescent--in our teens?

Mr. Raigorodsky.

When we were 16---that's right--any kind of pranks.

Mr. Jenner.

He is a prankster?

Mr. Raigorodsky.

Oh, yes, sir. And he does it so engagingly. I mean, his laugh is a genuine laugh and if you ever heard his laugh--he enjoys it. You see, it is a genuine laugh and of course that is very, very effective, you know, as far as other people are concerned.

Mr. Davis.

Would you say he is very distinct----

Mr. Raigorodsky.

There is no word for that--very engaging, I suppose would be the nearest.

Mr. Jenner.

I think you mentioned, but I failed to pursue it, I think De Mohrenschildt sought to borrow money from you, did he, in 1963?

Mr. Raigorodsky.

Occasionally.

Mr. Jenner.

In connection with the Haitian venture?

Mr. Raigorodsky.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

He did not?

Mr. Raigorodsky.

No; he sought to have me to participate in the deal.

Mr. Jenner.

And you did or didn't?

Mr. Raigorodsky.

I did not.

Mr. Jenner.

And that was to be what kind of a deal?

Mr. Raigorodsky.

Well, it is a corporation--here is a chart of what he was planning to do.
(Handed instrument to Counsel Jenner.)

Mr. Jenner.

Now, you have exhibited to me a chart that you have taken from your file. There is handwriting on the chart--is that George De Mohrenschildt's handwriting?

Mr. Raigorodsky.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Did he send that chart to you?

Mr. Raigorodsky.

Yes; here's the envelope.

Mr. Jenner.

And have you attached to the chart the envelope in which the chart was transmitted to you, and it is postmarked September 12, 1962, at Dallas, Tex., and is this an outline?

Mr. Raigorodsky.

Of what he plans to do there.

Mr. Jenner.

Of what he planned to do?

Mr. Raigorodsky.

You see, "Port-au-Prince, August 27, 1962." He shows he will have group insurance, cheap housing development, banking, cotton gin, electric powerplant, import franchise, spinning mill, weaving plant for cotton mill, and he puts down here "credits available for these industries."

Mr. Jenner.

Do you have any information that he is surveying the physical characteristics of the surface? Of the entire Haitian area.

Mr. Raigorodsky.

Well, that's what my understanding was, that that is how he got in so close to them--because it was one of his consulting jobs.

Mr. Jenner.

For the Haitian Government?

Mr. Raigorodsky.

For the Haitian Government.