Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. My father. But my mother almost immediately died from typhoid fever which she contracted during this escape. We all had this typhoid fever.

Mr. Jenner.

But she succumbed to it?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. That is right.

Mr. Jenner.

And this was what year?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. 1922.

Mr. Jenner.

You are now 11 years old.
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

At this point I might ask you--the name was Von Mohrenschildt at this particular time?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Your name is now De Mohrenschildt.
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

I think your brother still uses the Von, does he not?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Would you explain that?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes--because I am more or less of a French orientation. And when I became an American citizen, I did not like the prefix "Von" which is German to the average person. And so we used "De" which is equally used in Sweden or in the Baltic States, interchangeably. And my uncle, who was here in the States for quite some time, and died here----

Mr. Jenner.

I was going to ask you about him. You might as well give his full name.
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Ferdinand De Mohrenschildt.

Mr. Jenner.

I will digress for a moment. Ferdinand De Mohrenschildt was some officer, or had a connection with the Russian Embassy here in Washington?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Tell us about that, please.
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Well, he was First Secretary of the Czarist Embassy, the last Czarist Embassy here in Washington. He married McAdoo's daughter.

Mr. Jenner.

William Gibbs McAdoo's daughter. She is now Mrs. Post.
Is she still alive?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; she is still alive.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you recall her first name?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Nona.

Mr. Jenner.

Your uncle is deceased?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. He is deceased; yes.

Mr. Jenner.

They were eventually divorced, were they not?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes, sir; no--he died. They were never divorced. She was divorced many times--remarried and divorced many times. But he died--I guess in 1925 or 1924.

Mr. Jenner.

Sometimes people refer to you as Baron De Mohrenschildt.
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Would you explain that?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I don't refer to myself as that, you know. But supposedly the family has the right to it, because we are members of the Baltic nobility.

Mr. Jenner.

Through what source?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Through the Swedish source, from the time of Queen Christina. But my father never used the title, because of his perhaps liberal tendencies. Neither did Ferdinand, I think.

Mr. Jenner.

And as near as I can tell, your brother never has?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. My brother--I don't think so; no.

Mr. Jenner.

At least I don't find it in any of the papers.
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

You are an interesting person, Mr. De Mohrenschildt, to many people. They have gathered ideas about you, and many of them in the past at least have felt that you might have been, or that you perhaps were--had a title of some kind. I just wanted to explain that of record.
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, we have you in Wilno, Poland. You are 11 years old.

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