I understand that you. are, from witnesses I have interviewed, and from these mountains of reports.
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; I can imagine. By the way, those reports--again, you see this inquiry is probably going to hurt my business. I hope they are conducted somehow delicately.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, I was asking you to tell me about your father.
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Up to the time of his death, from what you understand to be the circumstances of death.
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; well, my father, then, therefore, was an important official of the Czarist government. But he was a liberal--he had very liberal ideas. He, for instance, was---

Mr. Jenner.

Now, liberal, to me, over in that country would mean nothing. You tell us what you mean by that.
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Liberal means disliked anti-Semitism, the persecution of Jews.

Mr. Jenner.

He was opposed to that?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Opposed to that. Disliked the oppression, some elements of oppression of the Czarist government.

Mr. Jenner.

He was opposed to that?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Opposed to that. And preached constitutional government. During the war he was a member--being an official--member of the group which mobilized the Army, and all that.

Mr. Jenner.

He mobilized the Czarist army?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

You are talking now about World War I?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. World War I. It is such a long time ago.

Mr. Jenner.

I have to get these things on record, so that somebody who is reading this, Mr. De Mohrenschildt, a hundred years from now--I should tell you that your testimony will be reproduced in full just as you give it, with all my questions put to you just as I put them. And it will be printed as part of the report.
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I can imagine what a volume it will be for the future Ph. D.'s to study. This is vague in my memory. I am saying what I vaguely remember, because, at that time, I was 5 years old. But I vaguely remember those days, the objections of my father against the Czarist government to a degree, although he was an official. He was an independent character, too. Finally he resigned his marshal of nobility position, and became a director of Nobel interests, of which his older brother was a president or chairman of the board--I don't know, I don't remember any more, in Baku, Russia. So we spent a little time there in the oil fields. And then, of course, the revolution came.

Mr. Jenner.

And that came when?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Beg pardon?

Mr. Jenner.

When?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. 1918, I guess. Then the revolution came. We were returned to Minsk.

Mr. Jenner.

In 1918 where were you?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. In 1918 probably in St. Petersburg, or Moscow, one or the other--in both towns at some times. Because the headquarters of that Nobel enterprises were in Petersburg or Moscow. But I am not so sure about that. Anyway, we lived there for awhile.

Mr. Jenner.

You do have a personal recollection of having lived in St. Petersburg and Moscow?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes, very vague. I never expected you to ask me such questions. I really have to delve into my memory. It is not very difficult, because, you know, I like to write things. So I did write a story of my childhood, and it is called "Child of the Revolution," a memory of the child of the revolution. It was poorly written. I showed it to one of the editors, Scribners, I remember, and they wanted me to change it, and I abandoned the whole thing. Well, so I do have a little bit more recollection than I am supposed to have just by living so many years, because I did write it down.

Mr. Jenner.

Yes. You wrote it when you came over to this country.

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