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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. IX - Page 165« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Mrs. Helen Leslie)

Mrs. Leslie.
what kind of people--whose influence was this and was he the same before or not, I cannot tell.
I never was interested in that, in this family, you know, close, so that's all I know about De Mohrenschildts.
Actually, now, it's already a long time, and my daughter doesn't either. The De Mohrenschildts are more or less friends with--and I don't know who knows them best, but I think--whether the Mellers do or not--I don't know who is friends, but I heard that he took interest in these Oswalds and Oswalds was in his house many times, but what they was talking about, if he knew about his point of view or if he knew he is a Communist, you know, many people was thinking that probably she didn't broke with the Soviet Union when she left, why he left, you know, why they let him out, you know, but nobody knows, you know, it is so hard to leave from there his wife and child, why they let them out.
Mr. Davis.
Did this occur to you?
Mrs. Leslie.
It has occurred to everybody--how--he was so poor and Bouhe was helping him and he has no decent job and at the same time he took a trip to Mexico and he took a trip to New Orleans--he was taking these trips--who supplied him with money--nobody knows. You know, that's a thought everybody was thinking--how he went there and how--it's strange things, but nobody can answer these questions.
Mr. Jenner.
But the interest of Mr. Bouhe and the Fords and the Mellers and the De Mohrenschildts and others was an interest growing out of good heartedness?
Mrs. Leslie.
I hope so--I think so--I hope so. Mostly, you know, I cannot tell about De Mohrenschildts. She's Russian and he is Russian. I don't know--he's from Estonia or something, you know, De Mohrenschildt.
Mr. Jenner.
On the Baltic Sea?
Mrs. Leslie.
Yes; but she is Russian. Now, you know, it is natural that Russians wants to meet Russians to talk their own language, and not to forget it, so they met them somewhere and invited them to their place, and if they helped them, I don't know, but they met, which I know--they was meeting them--somebody told that the FBI was looking for De Mohrenschildt here, and I think they found he was in Haiti, and I think in 6 months he will come back and it will all be over, after this is over. Probably he will come back into the United States.
Now, I cannot tell any more. Yes--I wanted to tell this--so, when this naturally occurred, I was watching television because President Kennedy was coming to Dallas and, the man, you know, he was nice, and there was Mrs. Kennedy, the First Lady, and then there was a bullet and a shot and he was shot and later they show a picture of Oswald. They presume that it was Oswald who is killer, you know, and I look at this Oswald, and then they showed Marina with the child and I did not recognize her; you know, I have not seen them in a couple of years and I didn't know his last name, the name Lee and Marina didn't meant to me everything, and then they said "Russian born," but didn't occur to me that I met them, and then I went to church on Newton Street and then there was a friend of mine, Igor Voshinin and Natalia Voshinin and she said, "Did you hear who killed President Kennedy?" I said, "I don't remember his name. They named it on television but I don't remember his name."
They said, "It's Oswald, you know him." I said, "I know him?" And they said, "But yes; you met him." I said, "Well," and then I said, "Oh, yes; I met him." And then I stopped to look at the pictures more closely and I recognized him then, but at first even I didn't recognize him, because when you are not expecting--I didn't know his last name and such a common face he has, and such a--you couldn't remember his face very closely--it is just one person you can recognize him, and that's how it happened that I knew him and his wife. Oh, I feel so bad; I shaked his hand--I didn't remember if I did or not. I shaked his hand, and I said, "Oh, I shaked hands with the killer of the President," and I felt dirty and I touched something I didn't want to touch, you know, but actually I'm very sorry about Marina, his wife. I am sorry.
Mr. Jenner.
Have you seen her since the occasion you met her?
Mrs. Leslie.
No, no; I think she is now helped by Mr. and Mrs. Ford. It was
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