Mr. Liebeler.

Marina's business agent, whether or not his name was James Martin or anything else?

Mr. Gregory.

No.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you have any conversation with Lee or Marina about Marguerite Oswald?

Mr. Gregory.

No. He never mentioned the fact that he even had a mother.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you ever observe Lee Oswald driving an automobile?

Mr. Gregory.

No. I asked him if he could drive. He said, "Yes." But if we ever went anywhere, I drove.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you remember anything more about that? Was that just a simple statement?

Mr. Gregory.

I just simply said, "Do you know how to drive?" And he said, "Yes."

Mr. Liebeler.

When did you ask him that?

Mr. Gregory.

I don't remember whether we were going out to some grocery store or something like that.

Mr. Liebeler.

But you never saw him drive a car?

Mr. Gregory.

No. He would walk great distances without thinking about it. I mean, what is in our estimation a great distance. And then he rode the bus quite a bit. But I never saw him drive a car or heard of him driving a car.

Mr. Liebeler.

Were you surprised when you learned that Oswald had been arrested in connection with the assassination?

Mr. Gregory.

Very.

Mr. Liebeler.

Would you tell us something about your state of mind at that time?

Mr. Gregory.

Well, my first impression was, I saw him on television when they first brought him in, and they didn't mention his name. And later they said the first suspect being brought in is Lee Oswald. I felt sure he had not done it. I felt that they probably brought him in because of his record in the Soviet Union and thought maybe he would be a likely person, but I did not think he had done it.
The only time I decided he may have done it was when the Secret Service talked to me and said the evidence looked----

Mr. Liebeler.

Talked to you?

Mr. Gregory.

Yes; it was on a Saturday after the assassination, and said it looked like he was the one. And my--I more or less reoriented my thinking that he was the one.

Mr. Liebeler.

Who from the Secret Service talked to you; do you remember?

Mr. Gregory.

I can't remember. Real nice fellow. Oklahoma City.

Mr. Liebeler.

Mr. Nielsen?

Mr. Gregory.

I think that was it.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did he outline the evidence to you relating to Oswald's alleged guilt?

Mr. Gregory.

No; he just said something that, I think something came over the radio that the chief of police said he was the one, and then he made a phone call and he said it looked like he was the one, or something like that. Something that he identified the gun or, I can't remember the exact words.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you remember any organizations of which Lee Oswald was a member during the time you knew him?

Mr. Gregory.

No.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you ever hear of any organizations to which he belonged?

Mr. GREGORY. No.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you know of the names of any people with whom he associated?

Mr. Gregory.

No; besides his brother and myself. That is it. Oh, then the Dallas Russians who I have mentioned.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you know a gentleman by the name of Gary Taylor?

Mr. Gregory.

No.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you know George De Mohrenschildt?

Mr. Gregory.

I think I heard my father mention the name De Mohrenschildt. I think he is from Dallas.

Mr. Liebeler.

But you do not know him personally, however?