Mr. Gregory.

Yes; I gave Marina a check. As I remember, it was around $35 or $40, something like that.
This was for the Russian lessons which she did give me. As I remember, $35, something like that.

Mr. Liebeler.

Is that all the money that you gave to either of them?

Mr. Gregory.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

And that check was made out to Marina Oswald, is that correct?

Mr. Gregory.

Marina.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you ever lend the Oswalds any money?

Mr. Gregory.

No.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you ever see anybody else ever give either of the Oswalds any money?

Mr. Gregory.

No.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you know of anybody else ever giving them any money?

Mr. Gregory.

I believe Mr. Bouhe gave them money. I know he gave them gifts, playthings for their daughter, and possibly clothes. I heard he gave them clothes, but I, myself, did not see this, so that is hearsay.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did either of the Oswalds ever spend any money or pay any bills while in your presence?

Mr. Gregory.

Yes. I often took them--I believe the second day I would go over in the week was Friday, and I would usually take them shopping and we would go down to a Leonard Department Store where you could get groceries cheaper, and they would buy their groceries at this time. But the only articles they were purchasing in my presence was food.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you have any recollection of approximately how much they spent on food?

Mr. Gregory.

It was very little. I recall I was amazed at how little they bought, and that Lee would always be very careful with the meat. He would be sure to get the cheapest possible cut he could get, and he would haggle and make sure they gave him the best. I mean, that he would get the better cuts and things like that. I remember they bought very little though.

Mr. Liebeler.

Other than the groceries, you never saw them spend any money or pay any bills; is that correct?

Mr. Gregory.

No; never.

Mr. Liebeler.

You did not see them? I suppose the answer should be, "Yes; I did not see them"?

Mr. Gregory.

Yes; I did not see them paying any bills.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did the Oswalds ever discuss their finances with you, or discuss their finances between themselves that you ever heard?

Mr. Gregory.

Not that I can remember. There is something faintly about them saying, "Well, if we had this money, we would buy something for June Lee," but I can't think of any specific instance.

Mr. Liebeler.

Now, taking all of your experiences with the Oswalds together and all of the conversations that you had with them, would you relate to us what they told you, and differentiate between Lee or Marina, as best you can, about the whole Russian episode, why Oswald went to Russia; what he did when he was there; how he met Marina; why he decided to come back; and how he came back, and so on?

Mr. Gregory.

On one of the questions I can't answer very well because I never discussed with him why he went. I personally never asked him.
At this dinner, I am sure you have already heard an account of it, he explained that he went because he was disgusted with the American system or the capitalist system where everything is run by money and the desire to get money. That seemed to be his only objection, that I ever heard, and his only reason as to why he left.
Let's see, what was the other. Oh, according to Lee, then also he was very disgusted with the Marines, how the Marines had treated him. I don't know if you could classify that as a reason for him leaving and going to the Soviet Union. Maybe it was.

Mr. Liebeler.

What did he tell you about that?

Mr. Gregory.

Oh, I just asked him--I knew he had been in the Marines--what he thought of it. He would never speak of it. He was sort of--look disgusted