Mr. Mamantov.

That it was there on that particular morning; however, she has seen in the past, well, she thought, if I remember right, that Lee took with him the gun and she was also asked----

Mr. Jenner.

Excuse me, she testified or she stated in your presence and you translated it?

Mr. Mamantov.

Right.

Mr. Jenner.

That she was aware of the fact that the gun had been in the blanket in the garage?

Mr. Mamantov.

That's correct, sometime in the past.

Mr. Jenner.

Yes; did she say whether she had seen the gun in the blanket in the garage prior to November 22?

Mr. Mamantov.

If I remember right--yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Did she describe what she had seen in the blanket when she had discovered it prior to November 22?

Mr. Mamantov.

That's correct.

Mr. Jenner.

Tell us what she said in that regard.

Mr. Mamantov.

She saw the stock of the gun, which was dark brown--black, she said.

Mr. Jenner.

These were responses of hers before the weapon was brought in the room?

Mr. Mamantov.

That's correct.

Mr. Jenner.

I want to stick to that period, before the weapon was actually brought into the room, and state what she said.

Mr. Mamantov.

They asked her also at that time when did he purchase the gun and such as where. If I remember right, she said she didn't know, she stated also that he had had a gun in the Soviet Union. They asked her a question if it was a dark brown or black gun. She said, "Yes, it was the same color," and she said, "to me all guns are the same color," and then she was asked if she would recognize a gun if shown to her, and at that time the gun was brought in.

Mr. Jenner.

Let's not go to that subject at the moment. I want to go back.

Mr. Mamantov.

All right.

Mr. Jenner.

What did she say, if anything, as to what she saw or discovered when she went into the garage that morning, the morning of November 22, to examine the blanket?

Mr. Mamantov.

No; here, I cannot state exactly if it was morning, noon or time police arrived, when she saw the blanket without the gun, and this--I don't remember--here is my time lapse whenever she saw it.

Mr. Jenner.

But whenever she responded, whenever she saw it that day, what did she say as to what the package contained, if anything?

Mr. Mamantov.

The blanket was, I'll put it this way, different position as she has seen in the past.

Mr. Jenner.

You mean in a different position, in a different place in the garage?

Mr. Mamantov.

No; it was supposedly in the same place, but there wasn't anything in it.

Mr. Jenner.

You mean it was in a different shape or form or condition?

Mr. Mamantov.

I'll put it this way--condition.

Mr. Jenner.

Did she say what the different condition was?

Mr. Mamantov.

I don't remember, but that attracted her attention. This I remember very well. She stated it attracted her attention--as she had seen before, so much I remember.

Mr. Jenner.

Her attention was arrested by the fact that the condition, shape, form or configuration of the blanket package was different from what she had noticed it to have been in on prior occasions when she had seen it?

Mr. Mamantov.

Evidently--if somebody, for instance, if you see a package in one shape and at different times, you see different shape.

Mr. Jenner.

Did she describe the shape and form and condition of the package as she saw it prior to this particular occasion on November 22, what it looked like earlier, and then contrasting that with what it looked like on the occasion of November 22 when she saw it again?

Mr. Mamantov.

If I remember right, going back, she had seen the package of