Mr. Conway.

Naturally, it's hard to say, but I would see those things not too often, but you know that was just the picture it built in my mind. I didn't see him very often---I have seen him try to fight with his half brother and his brother and he would tear into them and they would hold him off to try to keep him out of trouble and he would try to kick their shins, just all sort of things like that--I don't--it's been a long time.

Mr. Jenner.

Was he left alone a good deal?

Mr. Conway.

Yes, sir; quite a lot.

Mr. Jenner.

Describe that circumstance, will you please?

Mr. Conway.

That would be hard for me to describe to you too accurately because no more than I know about it, but I do know he would get home I would hear the boys, one of them say to the other one, "Where is Lee," and they would say, "He's in the house," or something like that and that's about all I would know. But I would see him in and out. He had a dog that he was very fond of, Lee did, and I would see him play with the dog around the place and I would have reason for accurate knowledge that there was no one there but him, but so far as just being absolutely sure--I'm not.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you have a recollection now whether Mrs. Oswald, his mother, worked?

Mr. Conway.

Yes, sir; she did work and I have heard my wife speak of where she worked, but I don't recall. She worked days and I usually worked nights---I usually worked nights.

Mr. Jenner.

So you were around the neighborhood, was that true, of this 4-year period as a rule?

Mr. Conway.

I believe it was. I'm not absolutely sure but I believe it was.

Mr. Jenner.

At least off and on during the 4-year period you did work nights?

Mr. Conway.

I'm almost sure that I did.

Mr. Jenner.

So that you would get to see these boys in the daytime and after school at least?

Mr. Conway.

It's funny, but I'm not so--not absolutely sure what year I started working nights. I know I worked nights before I moved to Fort Worth and I moved to Fort Worth from Grand Prairie in 1948, and that was the was before the Oswalds came, and I know I worked nights before they moved into that neighborhood and I took a preference to the second shift, so I did work the second shift at all times when it was possible since that time. It's more than likely that I was on the second shift almost all times they were there.

Mr. Jenner.

Did a time come when the family moved?

Mr. Conway.

Yes; and I don't remember exactly what year it was but it must have been in 1951 or 1952.

Mr. Jenner.

If they came in 1948, and they were there 4 years, that would be 1952.

Mr. Conway.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Now; had either of the older boys already left before the family moved?

Mr. Conway.

Well----

Mr. Jenner.

Take this boy who you took a particular interest in--John Pic.

Mr. Conway.

John went into the Coast Guard at sometime and it seems to me that he joined the Coast Guard before they moved away, but I'm awful cloudy on that.

Mr. Jenner.

. Well, have you exhausted your recollection on that?

Mr. Conway.

Well, I don't know--I remember talking to John---John, when he is in this part of the country, he comes to my house and I remember talking to him about it and he was quite enthusiastic about the Coast Guard but that's after he had been in the service sometime. I believe he left before his mother did. He left and went into the Coast Guard before his mother moved away.

Mr. Jenner.

You--could you refresh your recollection that he did leave before the mother and Lee left?

Mr. Conway.

I believe I remember that.

Mr. Jenner.

And he was in the Coast Guard and stationed in New York?

Mr. Conway.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

New York City, Staten Island, as a matter of fact?