Mr. Vinson.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Where?

Mr. Vinson.

I went to two colleges. I went to Arlington State College.

Mr. Liebeler.

For how long?

Mr. Vinson.

Well, it is broken up into a couple of segments. I went there in the fall of 1958, and the spring of 1959. The fall of 1959 and the spring of 1960. Part of the summer of 1960. Half of the summer, one semester. I did not go to college at all in the fall of 1960.
Then in the spring of 1961 I went back to Arlington State College, and in the fall of 1961, I went to Arlington State College, and the spring of 1962 I transferred to North Texas University in Denton. I went there that semester, both semesters, all of 1962, and the spring of 1962. The spring of 1963---excuse me, and half of the summer of 1963.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you graduate from that school

Mr. Vinson.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

What did you major in?

Mr. Vinson.

Journalism.

Mr. Liebeler.

Have you ever met anybody since you moved away from Lily B. Clayton that knew Oswald either at Lily B. Clayton or anywhere else?

Mr. Vinson.

I talked on the telephone to Richard Garrett. I wrote an article in the Star Telegram dealing with the fact that I had gone to school with Oswald in the second grade, and I couldn't pin it down and we really went off half-cocked without being certain when I wrote the story, when the story was published, although I did remember the name, and I had the class picture, and we compared it with some later class pictures, and we were all convinced it was the same person, although I could never find the teacher that--the day I was trying to do this and I couldn't get access to any records showing that he had gone there in the second grade.
But nevertheless, I went ahead and did the article, but I was trying to contact everyone I could who had known him, to see if they could help me, and I talked to Richard Garrett who is mentioned in the Life Magazine story. He had known of Oswald in the sixth grade, and he had seen Oswald again when Oswald came to Arlington Heights High School for a short time, and he told me just a few things.
I didn't talk to him long. I asked him, of course, if he recalled what elementary schools he had gone to, and he said that he didn't, although he knew that he had gone to some others in Fort Worth.

Mr. Liebeler.

He, being Oswald?

Mr. Vinson.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Where did Garrett know of Oswald in the sixth grade? Was that Lilly B. Clayton?

Mr. Vinson.

No. Oswald left Lily B. Clayton, according to Don Jackson who wrote this Life article. He did some real extensive research on it. I see you have a copy there.

Mr. Liebeler.

You are referring to the article on Oswald which appears in the February 21, 1964, issue of Life Magazine, is that correct?

Mr. Vinson.

Yes. On page 69, it quotes Garrett. It was the fifth and sixth grades. I was trying to find which school it was. I believe it was Ridglea West Elementary School.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did Garrett tell you this or you just said this on the basis of the article?

Mr. Vinson.

Yes, he told me this, too. Well, actually, I can't remember offhand, but I was just trying to refer to this to see if this is accurate, and I feel sure, I believe it was Ridglea West.

Mr. Liebeler.

Would it be the George Clark Elementary School?

Mr. Vinson.

No. That was another year.

Mr. Liebeler.

I believe Oswald did originally go to that school?

Mr. Vinson.

Yes. Ridglea West Elementary was Mrs. Clyde Livingston. And then it mentioned his fourth grade marks revealed a downward trend.

Mr. Liebeler.

What else did you talk to Garrett about?

Mr. Vinson.

Well, as far as the school is concerned, I don't remember offhand. I think it was Ridglea West. Garrett told me that he had known Oswald

Mr. Vinson.

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