Mrs. Voshinin.

are very, very good natured--definitely. They're for the underdog, you know--always. And--well, compared to George Bouhe, whose whole life is dedicated to helping people whether people wanted, it or not, you know--they would be nonhelpful. You know, they would not bother so much about people as George Bouhe did.

Mr. Jenner.

They weren't aggressive about it as George Bouhe was?

Mrs. Voshinin.

Right. But they were very--are very good natured.

Mr. Jenner.

And generous people?

Mrs. Voshinin.

Not George--no. Jeanne, yes; but not George.
For example, their relation to Oswald. They definitely pitied him very, very much. They were very sorry for him. And they tried to help him in any way they could.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, that you have mentioned the Oswalds, did you ever meet either one of the Oswalds?

Mrs. Voshinin.

No, sir; uh-uh.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you hear about the Oswalds?

Mrs. Voshinin.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

In what connection did you first hear or read or learn about their existence? Fix the time, first.

Mrs. Voshinin.

My husband read it in the newspaper.

Mr. Jenner.

That would be in June of 1962?

Mrs. Voshinin.

I really can't say.

Mr. Jenner.

They arrived here in----

Mrs. Voshinin.

They arrived here and there was an article in the newspaper.

Mr. Jenner.

Yes. They arrived in New York on the 12th day of June 1962?

Mrs. Voshinin.

I didn't know about----

Mr. Jenner.

Well, I'm just telling you that that's so.

Mrs. Voshinin.

Uh-huh. Thank you.

Mr. Jenner.

And then your husband read an item in the local paper--about what?

Mrs. Voshinin.

About them arriving here and from where did they come. They came from Russia. You know that. They arrived here and----

Mr. Jenner.

Was anything said in this article that arrested your attention as to the circumstance of their coming, or his circumstance or happenings in Russia?

Mrs. Voshinin.

I don't remember very well whatever was there in the article. I didn't read it myself. But what I heard of them was from my friends---first, from the Clarks. And they told me some circumstances. They told me that he was living in Minsk, I believe. But they didn't tell me anything about his political nature. They just said that she is a very nice person, very young, and he is boorish.

Mr. Jenner.

Boorish?

Mrs. Voshinin.

Boorish. Has bad manners and arrogant. I don't know the right English word for that. Arrogant, maybe. And, so, we decided that we don't want to associate with him at that time.
And the second time I heard from them--no, between that time between Clarks and De Mohrenschildts--I heard from them some other people in the St. Nicholas Church. They mentioned them.

Mr. Jenner.

You said, I heard from those people about Oswalds--about two Oswalds. Right?

Mrs. Voshinin.

Yes; and they were usually positive about her and somehow uneasy about him. They liked her. And the only thing that I heard--the only people that I heard about the political inclinations of Oswalds were De Mohrenschildts.

Mr. Jenner.

In conversations with the De Mohrenschildts?----

Mrs. Voshinin.

Uh-huh.

Mr. Jenner.

They related to you their views as to Oswald's political inclinations?

Mrs. Voshinin.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

What did they say and who said it--which of them?

Mrs. Voshinin.

First of all, we did not discuss it. It was rather remarks on George's side because we asked George definitely and Jeanne not to bring him