Mrs. Hall.

at that time, but after she moved in my house, I said, Marina, what was on your face? And she told me that he beat her.

Mr. Liebeler.

The first time that Marina came to your house, can you remember exactly when that was?

Mrs. Hall.

In July. Sometime in July.

Mr. Liebeler.

And you noticed even in July that she had been bruised, is that correct?

Mrs. Hall.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

But it wasn't until October or November----

Mrs. Hall.

October when she moved.

Mr. Liebeler.

That you learned that she had gotten those bruises as a result of her husband beating her, is that right?

Mrs. Hall.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

At the time in October that Marina lived in your house, did she discuss with you her marital relations with Oswald?

Mrs. Hall.

Yes. Well, she is, I think she is very nice girl. And I told her, "Marina, you are in such a difficult financial situation, you'd better not have children for quite a while, and when you have a better financial situation, you can have them." And she said, "Well, I don't know."
And I told her, "If you want to, I have a lady doctor, Dr. Taylor. If you want me, I will take you there. She will give you some things." And she said, "No; I don't think so."
She said, "Our married life is so strange that I don't think I ever will have any children any more," because he was very cold to her.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did Marina indicate at that time that she and Oswald did not have normal sexual relations.

Mrs. Hall.

Very seldom. The thing that she told me, "Very seldom."

Mr. Liebeler.

Tell me everything that you can remember about that subject that Marina told you.

Mrs. Hall.

That was the only thing that was worrying me, her to not have children, because they are in such bad shape, and that is the only thing she told me.
And I said, "If you think you want any more." So it is none of my business, you know.

Mr. Liebeler.

Is that all that Marina said about that subject?

Mrs. Hall.

We didn't talk any more, because it was my suggestion to her to not have children, and she told me that, and that was all.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did she ever tell you that Oswald would--was not very much of a man in that sense?

Mrs. Hall.

Yes. That is what she told me.

Mr. Liebeler.

They very seldom had sexual relations?

Mrs. Hall.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you ever discuss that question with her any other time?

Mrs. Hall.

No.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you form an impression as to how Lee and Marina were getting along with each other at the time that Marina lived in your house, other than what we have already talked about?

Mrs. Hall.

No. Couple of times I told her, "Why do you argue with him about little things," and she said, "Oh, because he is not a man." That is what she told me. For instance, I like hot peppers and he didn't like it. Well, is nothing wrong with a man who doesn't like peppers. John doesn't like it at all. And at the table they were eating, and I ate the peppers, and he wouldn't touch, and she said, "He is afraid of everything, hot peppers."
And he said, he don't like it, and they had argument about that. And after he left I said, Marina, you shouldn't do that because, well, some people like them and some don't."
Well, things like that, she would start with him and they had an argument. Probably if I wouldn't be there, they would have a fight or something.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you ever have the feeling that Marina was a good wife to Oswald, or did you have the feeling that she was not particularly a good wife?

Mrs. Hall.

Well, she is a little bit lazy one, and she can sleep 48 hours a