Mr. Liebeler.

So, you were a qualified dentist in the Soviet Union before you left?

Mrs. Meller.

Yes; I got my document but without final examination of dentistry because war started. By the way, I was always good in drafting back in school and I wanted to be always a draftsman or architect but it was too many people and everybody was interested in architecture so you have to be the very best one to make it and I wasn't the best one in physics, I remember, and I couldn't possibly--and it was time when girl supposed to have higher education, it started just then in Russia. Parents said you have to take something and finish so you have some kind of job, but when I was starting dentistry there was certain difficulties in the family. I was working at night as nurse in hospital and helping my sister with drafting so I get always money on the side little bit so I could proceed my studying. When I came to United States I have pretty bad veins. I could not stay very much on my feet; I had phlebitis when I arrived short after and doctor said better I will have sitting job better than standing because modern dentist have to stay very much on his legs so I took drafting. I went for my own interest to Crozier architecture school and took course in Dallas so I could see what drafting look like in United States. Since that time I love it and my job.

Mr. Liebeler.

Does your husband work also?

Mrs. Meller.

My husband works, too, at Sangers Harris as packer for 11 years or 12. I will say 12 years.

Mr. Liebeler.

Is your husband also from Russia originally?

Mrs. Meller.

No; my husband from Poland, born in Poland, finish two universities. He's professor of philosophy and teacher of physical education.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did there come a time that you met Lee Harvey Oswald and his wife, Marina?

Mrs. Meller.

We were invited one day in August, I think end of August in 1962, we were invited to Fort Worth to Mr. Peter Gregory--I, my husband, and Mr. George Bouhe. My husband couldn't go and I want to make something--we don't have a house here. We don't have car here. We have one bedroom apartment we live for past 10 year in same place. When we were invited there, my husband couldn't go so Mr. George Bouhe picked me up and because he had a car and we went to Fort Worth. At Mr. Gregory family, we met Marina and Lee Oswald.

Mr. Liebeler.

Who else was there at the time?

Mrs. Meller.

I think it was wife from Peter Gregory, Mr. Gregory, his son----

Mr. Liebeler.

Paul Gregory?

Mrs. Meller.

Paul Gregory, myself, and George Bouhe.

Mr. Liebeler.

Was that a luncheon meeting or was it in the evening?

Mrs. Meller.

It was a dinner.

Mr. Liebeler.

In the evening?

Mrs. Meller.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Would you tell us to the best of your recollection the conversation that took place and what happened at this first dinner at which you met the Oswalds?

Mrs. Meller.

We met them and Mr. Gregory said they come from Russia not long ago and we find out immediately that Marina could not speak word of English whatsoever. The baby was probably about 4 months old, baby girl was with. We talked; we didn't have something important, just were speaking about condition in United States and how Marina likes and if you had a job--Lee Harvey. By the way, the first impression of Lee Harvey is a man absolutely sick. I mean mentally sick; you could not speak with him about anything. He's against Soviet Union; he's against United States. He made impression he did not know what he likes, really. She was more quiet and certainly did not spoke much; since we met each other first time, nobody spoke too much. Really, it was easy going conversation but not much. We. asked how is her baby and we find out baby didn't have a bed and she didn't have anything to wear and I even don't remember if he had a job at this time already; I don't remember exactly or he was looking for it.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you carry on the conversation in English or in Russian?

Mrs. Meller.

In Russian more.