(Testimony of Pauline Virginia Bates)
Mrs. Bates.
something?'--"Can't you remember something else?"---"Well, can't you elaborate?" Well, I had one stock answer: "You cannot elaborate on the truth."
Mr. Jenner.
That's right.
Mrs. Bates.
And that's all I could remember. I didn't know the man; I could not say anything about him except what happened in my office. And that's all I knew about it. "Well, can't you elaborate?"--you can't elaborate on the truth.
Mr. Jenner.
No; that's right. Does anything occur to you that you think might be helpful to the Commission about which I haven't asked you--insofar as seeking the actual facts here is concerned?
Mrs. Bates.
I don't know. I can't think of another thing. And I do have to keep from giving impressions I've got now.
Mr. Jenner.
Yes. You have to----
Mrs. Bates.
I mean, disassociate the past and the present. I've got to.
Mr. Jenner.
That's right.
Mrs. Bates.
Because I don't know anything about the man except what I have read--since then. And I cannot make statements on my opinions or things like that. I don't believe in it.
Mr. Jenner.
All right.
Mrs. Bates, there have been a few occasions when the reporter was changing her tape and otherwise we have been off the record, during which we have had some conversations. Is there anything that occurred during the course of those asides that I had with you that you think I have failed to bring out--that's pertinent here?
Mrs. Bates.
No, sir; I think everything is down. In fact, we quit talking when she was changing the tape except for a cigarette, or something like that. I wish I could help you more.
Mr. Jenner.
So do we. But all we can do is to try to delve into this great mystery.
Mrs. Bates, you have the privilege and right to read over your deposition when it's been transcribed.
Mrs. Bates.
May I have a copy?
Mr. Jenner.
And to make any additions or corrections you see fit to make and that you think are warranted, and to sign it. You also have the right to waive these privileges if you see fit.
If you wish to take advantage of them, this transcript should, I think, be ready along about Wednesday of next week, a week from today. If you will call in, if I'm not in--we expect to be here but if I'm not in, talk to the U.S. attorney, Mr. Sanders.
Mrs. Bates.
That's long distance. I live in Fort Worth. Could you get a hold of Agent Howard?
Mr. Jenner.
Agent Howard? Well, we cannot let the deposition out of our possession.
Mrs. Bates.
No, no; and let him let me know when it is ready? He's the one that brought me over and he's waiting for me.
Mr. Jenner.
Oh, he is?
Mrs. Bates.
Uh-huh.
Mr. Jenner.
Well, when you are driving back with Agent Howard----
Mrs. Bates.
I'll tell him.
Mr. Jenner.
You tell Agent Howard to let you know when it is ready.
Mrs. Bates.
Okay. Because I don't have a car.
Mr. Jenner.
Because I have a hundred things to think about and I probably won't think about it.
Mrs. Bates.
Would there be a possibility of having a copy of it?
Mr. Jenner.
The rules provide that if you wish a copy, you may have a copy by paying the court reporter whatever the court reporter's regular rates are. So, if you wish to make an arrangement with her, that's your privilege.
Mrs. Bates.
Well, I'll ask Mr. Sansom--he's a very prominent lawyer over there and he said he wanted a copy of it.
Mr. Jenner.
Well, we would not supply a copy of it to anyone else. If you personally want a copy, you have the privilege of obtaining one.
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