Mrs. Bates.

these notes, it was--uh--the terrible living conditions and the terrible working conditions and--uh--he did say, "Anything you hear about vacations and those big May Day celebrations, that's all propaganda." He said, "You don't get vacations." And he said, "These May Day celebrations--yes; they have them, but you're forced to go. It's not a voluntary thing. And if you have a radio or a television and you don't listen to it, you better have a good explanation because all you hear is party politics and you've got to listen to it. You don't have coffee breaks and you go to work before dawn and you get off after dark."
And the notes were very, very bitter about Russia. And he never once mentioned the word "Communist."

Mr. Jenner.

Either in his notes or orally to you?

Mrs. Bates.

He just said "the party."

Mr. Jenner.

The Party? Those are the words he used--the expression, rather?

Mrs. Bates.

Uh-huh.
And he said you couldn't talk, you couldn't express anything because there was always a party person around and he'd report you.

Mr. Jenner.

Uh-huh.

Mrs. Bates.

He didn't talk very much. Just helped me with the translation and the notes--to read them.

Mr. Jenner.

Did he say anything to you about any effort on his part to become a citizen of Russia?

Mrs. Bates.

Didn't know anything about it. Oh, another thing he said that he was very bitter about--he went over there on a 2-year visa and, of course, he married Marina. At the end of the 2 years when he wanted to leave, they wouldn't let him bring her back. They said, "You go ahead and we'll send her to you."
"Well, of course," he said, "I knew I'd never see her again."
So, he stayed 11 months longer until he could get her and he raised so much cain until they finally let him.

Mr. Jenner.

Raised cain with whom?

Mrs. Bates.

The Russians.

Mr. Jenner.

Uh-huh.

Mrs. Bates.

He wouldn't leave--his visa was out but he wouldn't leave until they let her go.

Mr. Jenner.

Uh-huh.
Did he express orally to you any views or opinions respecting the Government of the United States?

Mrs. Bates.

Never.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you gather anything with respect to his attitude toward the United States?

Mrs. Bates.

No; I've thought and .thought--and, of course, I've been asked questions all along. And he didn't discuss anything. If you got 10 words out of him at a time, you were doing good. He just didn't talk except explaining those notes and, at times, he would go into detail on them. Conversations--he had actual conversations that he had had with different people over there.

Mr. Jenner.

Oh, he had?

Mrs. Bates.

If you could find those notes, I tell you--they were fascinating to read. "Inside Russia"--was what it was. And they were coherent and they were well written. And he had them all in sequence. I mean, they weren't just haphazard. He had them all in sequence according to city and dates and things like that.

Mr. Jenner.

How was his spelling?

Mrs. Bates.

Well, the English was fair.

Mr. Jenner.

The spelling?

Mrs. Bates.

Yeah.

Mr. Jenner.

He was an accurate speller?

Mrs. Bates.

Fair.

Mr. Jenner.

He had misspelled words, though, occasionally?

Mrs. Bates.

Oh, yeah. Mostly, I'd say, I don't know whether it was misspelled or just that he got in a hurry and left letters out. But there's very few men that are good spellers. I shouldn't say that but it's-----