Mr. Liebeler.

You did not have the final conversation with Oswald on that subject yourself?

Mr. Isaacs.

I had no conversation with him--my conversation with him was quite brief. My conversation consisted of just telling him that we were using these funds. It was a most brief conversation, as I remember it.

Mr. Liebeler.

Now, did you have any other contact with Oswald after Mrs. Ruscoll told him that these funds had to be used?

Mr. Isaacs.

I don't believe I did have any. I can't remember. What I did, I think, was to instruct the investigator to take him to some hotel downtown that he would have to stay at until arrangements could be made for his return the next day.

Mr. Liebeler.

So Oswald then, as far as you know, stayed in New York overnight that night?

Mr. Isaacs.

As far as I know, that is what happened, and I think that the investigator was instructed to get him out the next morning, I believe it was.
Incidentally, Mr. Liebeler, we did not have to spend any money on him at all. He had some money on him when he arrived here. I don't remember exactly how much he had, but he said that he could meet the expense at the hotel, as I recall it.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you yourself prepare any reports on the Oswald case, Mr. Isaacs, as best you can recall?

Mr. Isaacs.

When you say "reports," I would like you to be specific.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you dictate a memorandum?

Mr. Isaacs.

Yes. My telephone conversation with his sister-in-law I believe was dictated in there. I don't remember now whether I indicated or not that he would not accept our decision. I might have put that in there to point up the fact that I reported this to the administrator.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you remember whether you had this difficulty with Lee Oswald immediately after you called Texas, or could it have been on the next day, do you remember?

Mr. Isaacs.

I don't remember if there was a next day. I can't recall that at all, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

The best of your recollection is that you saw him just on one day?

Mr. Isaacs.

Yes. I don't remember whether there was any other time that I saw him. I think he was in the office that one time.

Mr. Liebeler.

What is the address of your office?

Mr. Isaacs.

42 Franklin Street.

Mr. Liebeler.

And that is where Mr. Oswald came in at that time; is that correct?

Mr. Isaacs.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you know whether Lee Oswald had talked to his brother, Robert, about this money that Robert was going to send to New York?

Mr. Isaacs.

I don't recall whether he--not in my presence.

Mr. Liebeler.

And to the best of your recollection, you did not learn from any other source that he had talked to Robert Oswald about it; is that correct?

Mr. Isaacs.

That is right, I think that is correct sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you have any conversation with Oswald as to his return from Russia?

Mr. Isaacs.

I don't recall having such a conversation with him.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you recall being interviewed by the FBI in connection with this matter?

Mr. Isaacs.

Oh, yes, sir; I do.

Mr. Liebeler.

I have a report of an FBI interview that indicates that you had told the FBI agent that you received the impression that Oswald had had difficulty in leaving Russia, but you recalled a statement by Oswald to the effect that he "caused so much trouble in Russia that they had to send me back home." Do you remember saying anything like that to the FBI agent?

Mr. Isaacs.

I don't recall saying anything like that. Of course, this is what the intake worker had said, and this is what was circulated around in the office, but I don't recall having--I did not speak with Oswald, and I don't recall having gotten this from him myself.