Mr. Powers.

Well, going back to what you said, he graduated seventh out of 30, it would be 4.5, which would be pretty good in the upper third of his class, so to speak. 4.2 couldn't be too far behind. So I would imagine on a five scale, 3.0 would be average. So 4.2 would be B plus.

Mr. Jenner.

How did that compare with yours, by the way?

Mr. Powers.

I don't know what mine was.

Mr. Jenner.

You don't?

Mr. Powers.

No; I don't have any idea what my proficiency report was.

Mr. Jenner.

I see. I take it that none of you boys traveled together to El Toro, you went by your own respective routes?

Mr. Powers.

Camarata and myself, seems to me we flew into Chicago together, and from there on, he went to Cedar Rapids, Iowa. And I continued on to Minneapolis in the plane there; there was another marine that went with us from, I think now, from Mississippi--from Biloxi into New Orleans. We went on the bus together.

Mr. Jenner.

Was it one of your group?

Mr. Powers.

Yes; I think so. It was one of our group that was leaving. And I want to say, it was Bandoni----

Mr. Jenner.

That's your best recollection?

Mr. Powers.

But once into New Orleans, it seems that Camarata and I--this is going through my mind of the limousine and on to the airport, and we continued on. Maybe there was three of us, I'm not sure. But it seems to me there was two of us, and I think we were at a movie theater, as my mind goes on. And we did run into some of the other fellows there.

Mr. Jenner.

But not Oswald?

Mr. Powers.

I can't say truthfully if we ran into him or not.

Mr. Jenner.

And El Toro is the Marine station----

Mr. Powers.

That's correct, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

What was your reporting date at El Toro?

Mr. Powers.

My reporting date at El Toro was 2400, 12 July 1967.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you have any recollection of what Oswald did during the intervening period, that is, this leave period?

Mr. Powers.

No; I do not. Except possibly there was something that was stuck in my mind; we were on the ship going overseas, he mentioned Texas and his mother. That's all that I can recollect.

Mr. Jenner.

So that he might have visited his mother in Texas?

Mr. Powers.

It stays in my mind of Texas and his mother. Whether this is truly true or not, it sticks there, And what the relationship was, I don't know, or if he did visit her or when, I'm not sure. I think I was under the opinion that he was from Texas. He used to say--I want to say Dallas, but I'm not sure again if that is planted----

Mr. Jenner.

Fort Worth?

Mr. Powers.

Yes; maybe it was Fort Worth, but it was some place in Texas, but I can't say for sure with everything going; again I don't know.

Mr. Jenner.

Did he say anything during these periods or thereafter of having been a boy in New Orleans up to his high school period, having lived for a while in Texas?

Mr. Powers.

Now, Texas and New Orleans are not associated in my mind. New Orleans, this is where he used to go on weekends; this is where he used to go quite a bit when he was in Mississippi. But as far as, let's say, hometown, or home State, it was in my mind; it stuck it was Texas, but there was no relationship between both of them other than .this is where he went.

Mr. Jenner.

How long did you remain at El Toro?

Mr. Powers.

We arrived the 12th of July in El Toro, Calif. This is when I reported in. Now, when I actually went overseas, it was in the August draft, I don't--to be truthful, I can't say when I went overseas. It was sometime in August, around the first of August.

Mr. Jenner.

Could it have been the middle of August, August 15th?

Mr. Powers.

It's possible. I cannot say for sure.

Mr. Jenner.

All right.

Mr. Powers.

I have no record of when I did actually.