Mr. Powers.

You're in error, sir. It's 1632342. The next name that appears is Lee H. Oswald, private, first class, 1653230. And the next name is my name, Powers, Daniel P., 1497089. And the next name that appears is Schrand, Martin E., private, first class, 1639694.

Mr. Jenner.

And that is spelled S-c-h-a-r-a-n-d?

Mr. Powers.

A-n-d, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Yes, -r-a-n-d. Or just Schrand, is it? Spell it, please.

Mr. Powers.

S-c-h-r-a-n-d.

Mr. Jenner.

All right. I want to get that straight because we, do have an incident that occurred with respect to him that I want to ask you about.

Mr. Powers.

Yes, sir. It did.

Mr. Jenner.

Those are all the men. Now, were you fellows destined to be together pretty much as a group from that point on for some time?

Mr. Powers.

How do you mean "destined"?

Mr. Jenner.

Did it turn out that the five of you--your assignments from then on were ran relatively parallel?

Mr. Powers.

Up to--you could say that's true to a certain extent. We did attend school there. Then from Mississippi we were assigned orders to go overseas, and report to El Toro, Calif. Here, while we were at Mississippi, it was parallel. We attended the same classes, and in the same particular group as far as the initial starting of training and graduation, if you would like to call it that.

Mr. Jenner.

Yes.

Mr. Powers.

And then once we got to California, they changed somewhat because some of the people reported in early to California and some of them reported later, so this getting into an overseas draft meant that some were leaving out of California earlier than others, of course, which would mean their assignments as far as orders, were different.
I would say that four of the names mentioned previously, Camarata, Oswald, Powers, and Schrand, went to the Far East; Bandoni and Brereton, I'm not sure where they went. I think they went to the east coast, as I recall.

Mr. Jenner.

What was your first impression of Oswald when you traveled from Jacksonville, Fla., to Biloxi, and Keesler Field, in Mississippi?

Mr. Powers.

Well, my first impression of this individual is that he was somewhat, to use the term, "loner." He was an individual who was normally outside the particular group of marines that were in this attachment to Keesler.
I felt that he was a somewhat younger individual, less matured than the other boys. Again, this was just a personal opinion.

Mr. Jenner.

By the way, what is your age?

Mr. Powers.

My age at the moment is 27.

Mr. Jenner.

All right. And what is the date of your birth?

Mr. Powers.

July 20, 1936. At that particular time I believe I was----

Mr. Jenner.

So you were 3 years older than Oswald. He was born October 18, 1939?

Mr. Powers.

Yes; that's correct.

Mr. Jenner.

Did any incident occur during your travel from the Naval Air Base in Jacksonville to Keesler Field in Biloxi, Miss., with respect to Oswald which arrested your attention or was there any question about him?

Mr. Powers.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

Or was this relatively uneventful?

Mr. Powers.

It was uneventful, you might say. There is nothing that you would care to attach any significance to other than to the fact that for the most of us, this was the first time that we ever were on a train and this was somewhat a new experience for the most part for most of us.

Mr. Jenner.

I see. And how many days travel were you given?

Mr. Powers.

I believe it was an overnight travel. So it probably--2 days, May 3 to May 4, is when we actually reported in here; departed Jacksonville, Fla., on 2 May 1957 and arrived in Biloxi, Miss., 4 May. So we reported for duty on that particular day.

Mr. Jenner.

So you were then there May 4, 1957?

Mr. Powers.

That's correct.