Mr. Liebeler.

Do you remember which article in Life Magazine this was? Was this the issue----

Mr. Delgado.

The big writeup on him, the latest one, where he had the picture of him in the Philippines, and things like that.

Mr. Liebeler.

The one that they had Oswald's picture on the cover, holding the rifle?

Mr. Delgado.

Right. And right now he is an instructor of philosophy or psychology in Columbia University, I think it is, something like that.

Mr. Liebeler.

This lieutenant?

Mr. Delgado.

Right. I just thought it funny, him saying that he was commanding officer over Oswald; that he had a lot of trouble with Oswald. And you have been m the Army, a supply officer hardly ever comes in contact with the troops, and to say that a lieutenant is going to override a lieutenant colonel is ridiculous.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you tell the FBI that Oswald did not show any interest in sports?

Mr. Delgado.

Yes; I told them he didn't show any interest in sports.

Mr. Liebeler.

In spite of the fact that he had actually gone on the football team?

Mr. Delgado.

That is just one example, the football. But he never went out for basketball, baseball, or handball, like the rest of us did, you know. And myself, I didn't go out for sports either, just football and handball; and that was it.

Mr. Liebeler.

Was Oswald a good football player?

Mr. Delgado.

Mediocre, he was so-so.

Mr. Liebeler.

What position did he play?

Mr. Delgado.

He played tackle or end, you know, never fullback, quarterback or anything like that, you know.

Mr. Liebeler.

What kind of football teams were these?

Mr. Delgado.

Flag. Flag football.

Mr. Liebeler.

That is, the different companies or batteries?

Mr. Delgado.

Well, when Oswald went out for the team, it was in the battery, getting the lines set up, but he quit before we went for competition.

Mr. Liebeler.

Was this regular football or just touch football.

Mr. Delgado.

Flag football.

Mr. Liebeler.

Touch football?

Mr. Delgado.

Touch football.

Mr. Liebeler.

Go back and tell us all that you can remember about this trip to Tijuana?

Mr. Delgado.

Well, it happened on one of our weekends off.

Mr. Liebeler.

When was it, approximately?

Mr. Delgado.

Oh, you got me there. I would say about May, something like that.

Mr. Liebeler.

In 1959.

Mr. Delgado.

1959; right.

Mr. Liebeler.

Can you remember whether your trip to Tijuana was before the rifle qualification or after?

Mr. Delgado.

After.

Mr. Liebeler.

How much after?

Mr. Delgado.

Oh, about 3 to 4 weeks. Within the same month period, because we were about just gotten paid, you know.

Mr. Liebeler.

Go ahead.

Mr. Delgado.

And these two colored fellows we had in our outfit, I can't remember their names, like I told the agents, I don't know why because they worked in a different department than I did there, never had no trouble with them, they wanted to go down to Tijuana; so I had the car, and they asked me if I would take them down there. So I told them yeah, they are going to pay for the gas, so why not, I will go for a free trip. So in the process of getting ready I asked Oswald if he wanted to go there, you know, and I have asked him to go to L.A. with me plenty of times and he never bothered going--I said, "Oswald, let's go to Tijuana."