Mr. Delgado.

We went out to the field, to the rifle range, and before we set out we had set up a pot. High score would get this money; second highest, and so forth down to about the fifth man that was high.

Mr. Liebeler.

How many men were there?

Mr. Delgado.

Oh, in our company there was about roughly 80 men, 80 to 100 men, and I would say about 40 of us were in the pot. All low ranking EM's, though. By that I mean corporal or below. None of the sergeants were asked to join. Nine times out of ten they weren't firing, just watching you. They mostly watched to see who was the best firer on the line.

Mr. Liebeler.

You say there were about 40 men involved in this pot?

Mr. Delgado.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

And you say that Oswald finished fifth from the highest?

Mr. Delgado.

No; he didn't even place there. He didn't get no money at all. He just barely got his score, which I think was about 170, I think it was, just barely sharpshooter.

Mr. Liebeler.

Sharpshooter is the minimum.

Mr. Delgado.

Minimum.

Mr. Liebeler.

Rank?

Mr. Delgado.

It's broken down into three categories: sharpshooters--no; pardon me, take that back; it's marksman is the lowest, sharpshooters, and experts. And then Oswald had a marksman's badge, which was just a plain, little thing here which stated "Marksman" on it.

Mr. Liebeler.

And that was the lowest one?

Mr. Delgado.

That was the lowest. Well, that was qualifying; then there was nothing, which meant you didn't qualify.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you fire with Oswald?

Mr. Delgado.

Right; I was in the same line. By that I mean we were on line together, the same time, but not firing at the same position, but at the same time, and I remember seeing his. It was a pretty big joke, because he got a lot of "Maggie's drawers," you know, a lot of misses, but he didn't give a darn.

Mr. Liebeler.

Missed the target completely?

Mr. Delgado.

He just qualified, that's it. He wasn't as enthusiastic as the rest of us. We all loved--liked, you know, going to the range.

Mr. Liebeler.

My recollection of how the rifle ranges worked is that the troops divided up into two different groups, one of which operates the targets.

Mr. Delgado.

Right.

Mr. Liebeler.

And the other one fires?

Mr. Delgado.

Right.

Mr. Liebeler.

When you said before that you were in the same line as Oswald, you meant that you fired at the same time that he did?

Mr. Delgado.

Right. And then all of us went to the pits, our particular lines; then we went to the pits, you know.

Mr. Liebeler.

Oswald worked the pits with you, the same time you did?

Mr. Delgado.

Right. And he was a couple of targets down. It was very comical to see, because he had the other guy pulling the target down, you know, and he will take and maybe gum it once in a while or run the disk up; but he had the other guy pulling it up and bringing it down, you know. He wasn't hardly going to exert himself.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you remember approximately how far away Oswald was in the line from you when you fired?

Mr. Delgado.

Yes; he was just one over from me.

Mr. Liebeler.

The next one, the very next one?

Mr. Delgado.

Not the next one, but the one over from that.

Mr. Liebeler.

There was one man between you and Oswald?

Mr. Delgado.

Right.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you talk to him about his performance with the rifle at that time?

Mr. Delgado.

Not during that day, because I was mostly interested in my picking up the money, you know, and I wasn't worrying about what he was doing; in fact if he wasn't bringing it in, I didn't care, you know. I didn't want no competition.