Mr. Pic.

I am in the ship department as well as the tugboat department of the
company.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you have managerial supervision in the company now, Mr. Pic?

Mr. Pic.

Yes; I am operating manager of the company.

Mr. Jenner.

You have major responsibilities with the company now; is that right?

Mr. Pic.

Yes, sir; right much. I have a big responsibility with the company.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, at a point in your marriage to the then Mrs. Pic, who is now Mrs. Oswald, there was a time when you didn't get along; is that right?

Mr. Pic.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Will you tell me about that please? Just tell me in your own words what difficulty you had with her.

Mr. Pic.

Well, we just couldn't put two and two together and make it come out to four.

Mr. Jenner.

There was no outside influence?

Mr. Pic.

No; none; definitely not.

Mr. Jenner.

On either side?

Mr. Pic.

No; there wasn't.

Mr. Jenner.

You just figure you were two persons who couldn't jell; is that just about a fair statement of your situation at that time?

Mr. Pic.

That's right. We couldn't make it. We just couldn't get along, you know, so we finally decided to quit trying and call the whole thing off; which we did.

Mr. Jenner.

Tell me this. Was she a nice girl. Would you right now be able to look back and say whether she was what you would consider a nice girl at that time?

Mr. Pic.

Oh, definitely, yes. She was a nice girl. I couldn't say anything about Marguerite at all. It was just one of those things. We just couldn't get along. We had a lot of friends and everything, but there was something that kept things getting worse and worse. Maybe I had a rotten disposition, I don't know.

Mr. Jenner.

You aren't trying to place the blame anywhere now, are you?

Mr. Pic.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, you have lived here in New Orleans all the intervening years; haven't you?

Mr. Pic.

Yes; that's right.

Mr. Jenner.

Was there a child born of your marriage to Marguerite, Mr. Pic?

Mr. Pic.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

And that's John Edward Pic, is that correct?

Mr. Pic.

Correct, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Why did you give him that name, so he wouldn't be another "Jr.," or II or III?

Mr. Pic.

I had nothing to do with that, sir. She named him.

Mr. Jenner.

She gave him that name?

Mr. Pic.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Was the child born before or after the separation?

Mr. Pic.

After the separation.

Mr. Jenner.

Were you aware that she was pregnant at the time of the separation?

Mr. Pic.

I was, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

And you discussed that with her, I presume?

Mr. Pic.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Was that a mutual agreement, to separate?

Mr. Pic.

Yes, sir; we went to an attorney, the same attorney, and he worked it out for us. We decided the best thing for us was to separate, and we did.

Mr. Jenner.

Then you supported her; did you?

Mr. Pic.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

The child John Edward Pic was born then during the period of the separation, but before the divorce, is that right?

Mr. Pic.

That's right.

Mr. Jenner.

Were you aware of the birth of the child?