Mr. Murret.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

And he started high school here, I believe, is that right, or do you know?

Mr. Murret.

Yes; I think so. I mean, I can't fix the year and all those details, but they did come back here, and he went to high school.

Mr. Jenner.

What do you remember about him as to his personality when he returned?

Mr. Murret.

Well, couldn't remember the first one, to compare it to the second time. I mean, I couldn't say he actually changed in any certain way, because I couldn't remember how he was the first time.

Mr. Jenner.

They lived with you for awhile when they returned to New Orleans, didn't they?

Mr. Murret.

I don't remember.

Mr. Jenner.

You don't remember that?

Mr. Murret.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you remember, or were you conscious of the fact, that they were living in New York City before they returned to New Orleans on that occasion?

Mr. Murret.

Well, I couldn't swear to that, but judging from what the wife said, I mean, that's probably what happened. She had told me that they were in New York; I remember that.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you remember when they returned here from New York that they lived over on St. Mary Street, or Exchange Alley?

Mr. Murret.

I remember Exchange Alley. I remember 1 day in particular, and I think it was on carnival, or somewhere in the carnival season. I don't know the date any more. They went back to Texas from there.

Mr. Jenner.

At any rate you remember that they left and went to Texas, right?

Mr. Murret.

Let me put it this way. I think they did, but I lost contact with them.

Mr. Jenner.

But they did leave New Orleans again, after living at Exchange Alley didn't they?

Mr. Murret.

Yes; they went back to Texas. Do you mean the second time?

Mr. Jenner.

Yes. Do you remember that?

Mr. Murret.

Yes; I recall my wife telling me that--that they had moved back to Texas, but I don't know the date or anything like that.

Mr. Jenner.

When was the next time that you saw either of them?

Mr. Murret.

Well, the next time was when he came to New Orleans, and stayed at our house. That was just a year ago in May, I think. I don't remember what month, but it was about that.

Mr. Jenner.

About a year ago or in that neighborhood?

Mr. Murret.

Yes. That's when Lee came to town, and wanted to look for an apartment, and said he was going to get a job, and that he would like to stay with us until he found something.

Mr. Jenner.

All right; now, tell us about that.

Mr. Murret.

Well, when I walked in the house, he was standing in the kitchen.

Mr. Jenner.

That was after you came home from work?

Mr. Murret.

That's right.

Mr. Jenner.

You were surprised to see him?

Mr. Murret.

Yes; that's right. I was surprised all right.

Mr. Jenner.

All right. What happened then?

Mr. Murret.

My wife said, "Do you recognize who this is?" and I said, "Yes," and I said, "It looks like he has grown up or something." Of course, he looked older, but he hadn't changed too much in appearance, I don't think.

Mr. Jenner.

Of course, this was Lee Oswald?

Mr. Murret.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

The same boy, but you say he had grown up a little more, is that right?

Mr. Murret.

That's right.

Mr. Jenner.

Physically, at least?

Mr. Murret.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Had you heard anything about him in the meantime?