Mr. Jenner.

You're talking about Lillian Murret, your wife, and Marguerite's sister, now, is that right?

Mr. Murret.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you know a man by the name of John Pic, or Ed Pic?

Mr. Murret.

Ed is all I knew him by.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you see him once in a while?

Mr. Murret.

Oh, I saw him just by chance.

Mr. Jenner.

But you did see him once in a while over the years, is that right?

Mr. Murret.

Oh, yes and I still do, as a matter of fact, but not very often. He has been with T. Smith, Stevedores, for many, many years.

Mr. Jenner.

Does he have a responsible position with T. Smith?

Mr. Murret.

Oh, I imagine, because he has been there for so many years.

Mr. Jenner.

Was he ever a stevedore?

Mr. Murret.

I think he has just been an office man, to my knowledge, but his firm is in that line of business.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you remember his marriage to Marguerite Claverie?

Mr. Murret.

Well, I didn't attend the wedding.

Mr. Jenner.

But you knew they were married?

Mr. Murret.

Oh, yes.

Mr. Jenner.

And do you know that some difficulty arose eventually in that marriage?

Mr. Murret.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

They didn't get along?

Mr. Murret.

That's right

Mr. Jenner.

And they separated?

Mr. Murret.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Since your wife has given us most of that information, we will just skip some of that, but that marriage did end in divorce, is that right?

Mr. Murret.

Yes, it did.

Mr. Jenner.

They had one child, John Edward Pic, is that right?

Mr. Murret.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you see them once in a while during this period?

Mr. Murret.

Yes; they lived close in the neighborhood, so I would see them pretty often.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you remember her divorce from John Pic and subsequent marriage to a man by the name of Lee Oswald?

Mr. Murret.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

What business was he in?

Mr. Murret.

The insurance business.

Mr. Jenner.

Was he an insurance collector?

Mr. Murret.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

He was not an insurance salesman?

Mr. Murret.

No, he was a collector. He collected premiums for his company.

Mr. Jenner.

You do remember that Marguerite married Lee Oswald, and a couple of children were born of that marriage, is that right?

Mr. Murret.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner.

Robert Lee and Lee Harvey, is that right?

Mr. Murret.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you remember the birth of Lee in 1939?

Mr. Murret.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you recall when they lived on Alvar Street?

Mr. Murret.

Alvar? Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

You do remember that?

Mr. Murret.

Yes; I think that's where they were living when he died.

Mr. Jenner.

Yes; our records show that he died in August 1939, and Lee was born a couple of months after he died; do you remember that?

Mr. Murret.

Yes; I don't know the exact month, but I remember it was right after he died.

Mr. Jenner.

What did she do after her husband died, after she had the child? Did she go to work, or what?

Mr. Murret.

I couldn't swear to that. I don't know if she inherited anything