And the occasion for that discussion was that some of his former----
Miss MURRET. He might have told me that he didn't have anything in common with the other students--I don't remember this. This was a long time ago, and she always had said that, but I may have said that before also. I just don't remember. I know it was this time when she told me that that was the reason for not associating with, the other students, and that they made fun of him.

Mr. Liebeler.

And this discussion came up when these former students from Beauregard came on the program, or on the air at this TV station and said that Lee Harvey Oswald had always been involved in fights when he was a young man, and the purport of that was that he was belligerent and difficult to get along with, and this is something that you might expect from a fellow like that, but your mother did not have that opinion?
Miss MURRET. And from what I know--it is a long time ago---but he was very quiet, and I know he didn't have many friends, I don't think, but he was not the belligerent type. He just minded his own business, and of course, if he committed this act, I guess it was a perverted mind--I don't know--but he had a certain manner about him that other children never had. I mean he was very refined he really was, and extremely well mannered. I mean he was not an agitator to where you would say that any trouble started with him--I don't know. I mean from what I know, he never was.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you remember that Lee gave this impression back during the days that you knew him? Do you have any firsthand knowledge of that difference between him and the other boys as far as refinement and being well mannered?
Miss MURRET. As far as manners, yes. Definitely. And I mean with some people that would irritate them--that would irritate many people, I suppose. I don't know, but that I do remember. And, as I said, he was very quiet, so he never talked, and it was very seldom, but he always had this manner, except that when he was a very young child he was very--he was darling, and very outgoing, and a very pretty child. He was adorable, and I mean if you walked in the street with him, everybody would stop because he lived with us until he was two, or a little over two, but if my mother took him to Canal Street, everybody stopped to admire him. He was a very pretty child, and very happy, very cute.
But, at Beauregard, I don't think there was anything different about him and the others, other than he was not--well, other than, as I was saying, he would have this very erect carriage at that time also, and, well, his manner was just different from those people, or from most of those students, I should say.

Mr. Liebeler.

Can you think of any other ways in which Lee differed from his associates or fellow students at that time?
Miss MURRET. No; at that time I don't think because well, I think he wanted to play ball, or other things, but he didn't have the money--it could have been other things. I just don't know. I mean he wanted to play ball, and he didn't have the money to buy the equipment, and this is a long time ago, I am telling you, and I can't remember whether my brothers or somebody gave him some equipment, and he was very appreciative, very thankful, you know. And I mean I guess he couldn't do what the other children did, because he couldn't afford it. I mean he was interested in sports at that time, and he did like others, but I mean he was more reserved than the average person; but he wasn't--I guess he was interested in some of the same things like that, but I mean he wasn't a giddy child, is what I mean.

Mr. Liebeler.

You mentioned this television program in which these former fellow students of his at Beauregard indicated that he had been involved in fights when he was at Beauregard. Do you remember what station that program was on?

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