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(Testimony of Mrs. Lillian Murret Resumed)
Mr. Jenner.
Did he have any long packages with him?
Mrs. Murret.
I wouldn't know that. Do you mean any visible long packages?
Mr. Jenner.
Yes.
Mrs. Murret.
I didn't see any.
Mr. Jenner.
These cardboard boxes, were they ordinary cardboard boxes that a person would pack things in?
Mrs. Murret.
Yes; I guess there were clothes in those.
Mr. Jenner.
Did he have any long flat package with him?
Mrs. Murret.
I didn't see any.
Mr. Jenner.
Did you ever see any package wrapped in unbroken or tan wrapping paper?
Mrs. Murret.
I don't think. Like I said, I knew there were all kinds of things back in there, all bunched up, more or less. Everything was in such a little space back there, but it was all together, and my washing machine is out there, but I never one time pried into or disarranged any of that stuff or anything like that. I figured that wasn't any of my business.
Mr. Jenner.
Did you see any package that stood up on end at all?
Mrs. Murret.
I didn't see any like that; no.
Mr. Jenner.
Anything that looked like, oh, say, a tent pole, long and hard?
Mrs. Murret.
No; I didn't see anything that looked like that. There were just some boxes and duffelbags and bundles that I saw, and I do know one time he was back there when I was back there and he pulled out a Russian cap that they wear in Russia, and boots, you know, these leather Russian boots, but that's all I saw.
Mr. Jenner.
Did the Russian cap have any insignia on it, or anything like that?
Mrs. Murret.
Yes; the Russian cap had fur on it, like the Russians wear in cold weather.
Mr. Jenner.
Did it have any insignia on it, or a Red star, or hammer and sickle or anything like that?
Mrs. Murret.
No; not that I saw. What struck me as odd that was that Lee didn't seem to have anything to wear. I told him, "Lee, you don't look too presentable. I am going to buy you some clothes." My boys were all big all over 6 feet, so nothing they had would fit Lee, so he said no, that he had a lot of things, but that they were all packed. He said that's all right, but all he had on at the time was a T-shirt and pants, and I think he had only about two T-shirts with him.
Mr. Jenner.
You say he had no suit coat?
Mrs. Murret.
No; and only one pair of shoes. I even offered to buy him a pair of shoes, but he said no, that he had some shoes packed away.
Mr. Jenner.
Did he ever get them out?
Mrs. Murret.
No, he didn't get them out. He said he just wanted to put up there for a few days, you see, because he was trying to find a job, he told me, and then he said he would send for Marina, his wife, and the child. and I asked him to tell us what she looks like, you know, to describe her, and he said, "Well, she's just like any other American housewife." He said, "She wears shorts," and so forth, just like any other American housewife, and he said he would have to have a newspaper so he could scan the want ads and try to find himself a job, and so every morning he would get up and go through the newspaper looking for a job, and he would go out every morning with his newspaper, and he wouldn't come back until the afternoon, until supper time. I had supper anywhere from 5:30 to 6 o'clock, and he was there on time every day for supper, and after supper he didn't leave the house. He would sit down about 6:30 or 7 o'clock, and look at some television programs, and then he would go right to bed, and he did that every day while he was at the house, and so then on the first Sunday he was there, he was talking--we were talking about relatives, and he said to me, "Do you know anything about the Oswalds?" and I said, no, I said that I didn't. I said, "I don't know any of them other than your father, and I saw your uncle one time." I said, "I don't know anything about the family; I don't know them," so he said, "Well, you know, I don't know any of my relatives." He said, "You are the only one I know."
Now, this was on a Sunday, and Lee had come to my house on a Monday.
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