Mrs. Murret.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Did she stay with you?

Mrs. Murret.

She stayed with me; yes.

Mr. Jenner.

And you had discussions during that time about his going to Russia?

Mrs. Murret.

Well, not too much.

Mr. Jenner.

What statements were made, if any? I mean, what was your impression?

Mrs. Murret.

Well, she seemed kind of upset about it. I mean, she tried to get him to get back to the States, but she said he didn't talk to her over the telephone.

Mr. Jenner.

You mean she tried to reach him by telephone?

Mrs. Murret.

Yes, sir. The paper office over there in Fort Worth was the one who contacted Lee at the hotel over there, but he didn't talk. He hung up. I believe Robbie tried to get him back, and so forth, but that's all I know about it. So then we didn't hear any more from her after she left here. She said she was going to get lost.

Mr. Jenner.

She said that to you?

Mrs. Murret.

Yes. She said nobody was going to know where she was going.

Mr. Jenner.

Why?

Mrs. Murret.

I don't know why, so then I didn't hear from her any more until one day the telephone rang and I answered the phone, and Lee said, "Hello, Aunt Lillian," and I didn't recognize his voice, and not thinking about Lee, you know, and I have other nephews, and I said, "Who is this?" and he said, "This is Lee," and I said, "Lee?" and he said, "Yes."
I said, "When did you get out? When did you get back? What are you doing?" He said, "I have been back since about a year-and-a-half now," and I said, "Well, I'm glad you got back," and he said, "I'm married, and I got a baby." I think he said she was 14 months old, so anyway, he said, "Would you put me up for a while?" And he said, "I am down here trying to find a job; would you put me up for a while?" And I said, "Well, we will be glad to, Lee," but then I started thinking, because if he had a wife and child, I would have to make other arrangements maybe, and so I asked him, I said, "Lee, are you alone?" and he said, "Yes," and I said, "Well, come right on out."

Mr. Jenner.

This was in May or April 1963; is that right?

Mrs. Murret.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Just about a year ago?

Mrs. Murret.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you remember whether it was May or April, which month it was.

Mrs. Murret.

It was way after Easter, I know. It was possibly the week after Easter.

Mr. Jenner.

All right. Now, he arrived at your home; is that right?

Mrs. Murret.

Yes, he took the streetcar and bus, I suppose, to be coming to my house, and he came out to the house and he was very poorly dressed.

Mr. Jenner.

How was he dressed?

Mrs. Murret.

He just had on a sportshirt, and a very poorly pair of pants.

Mr. Jenner.

Did he have a suit coat on?

Mrs. Murret.

A suit coat?

Mr. Jenner.

Yes.

Mrs. Murret.

No, he didn't.

Mr. Jenner.

Was your husband home?

Mrs. Murret.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

Was anybody other than you home?

Mrs. Murret.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

What luggage did he have when he arrived at your home?

Mrs. Murret.

I don't think he came with anything over to the house. He could have one of these bags, I mean when he came to my home from the bus station.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, this is particularly important to us. Let me take you back now to just a year ago, and tell me first of all, as to your recollection of whether he had any luggage with him when he arrived at your house.