Mr. Ely.

In which numbered area is that located?

Mr. Owens.

That would be on district 97, and no one sent me, but when I heard all of this--so many squads getting called to report there, then I went.

Mr. Ely.

You headed toward the downtown area yourself?

Mr. Owens.

Yes; I went to Elm and Houston myself.

Mr. Ely.

Even though you didn't have a specific order to go in there either?

Mr. Owens.

That's right--that's true.

Mr. Ely.

Officer McDonald, who testified before the Commission, told us that he went to the corner of Elm and Houston, do you know which numbered area on this map he was assigned to?

Mr. Owens.

He was working district 95, which covers district 95 and 96.

Mr. Ely.

Off the record.
(Discussion off the record between Counsel Ely and the witness Owens.)

Mr. Owens.

I don't know what district Officer J. L. Angel was working, but it was my understanding that he also went to Elm and Houston.

Mr. Ely.

Well, he was working somewhere in the Oak Cliff area, was he?

Mr. Owens.

Yes; he was working in the Oak Cliff area under the same sergeant that Officer Tippit was working under, so he would be in the same general area which covers these districts in here.

Mr. Ely.

That would be districts 82 and 85?

Mr. Owens.

No--81, 82, 85, 86, 87, or 76, 77, 78, or 79---that's that sergeant's district.

Mr. Ely.

All right, thank you very much, sergeant.

Mr. Owens.

I don't know of anything else--as I say, I couldn't remember where they handed me the gun. I knew it was at the scene because my wife said she saw it on television and I had his gun, and when I asked her about it she said it wasn't the suspect's gun she knew because she has been a policeman's wife long enough to know I wouldn't be handling a gun like that if it was the suspect's.

Mr. Ely.

All right, Sergeant, thank you very much.

Mr. Owens.

All right, thank you.

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William Arthur Smith

Testimony of William Arthur Smith

The testimony of William Arthur Smith was taken at 4:25 p.m., on April 2, 1964, in the office of the U.S. attorney, 301 Post Office Building, Bryan and Ervay Streets, Dallas, Tex. by Mr. Joseph A. Ball, assistant counsel of the President's Commission.

Mr. Ball.

Mr. Smith, stand up and raise your right hand. Do you solemnly swear that the evidence you are about to give before the Commission shall be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?

Mr. Smith.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Sit down.

Mr. Ball.

State your name, please.

Mr. Smith.

William Arthur Smith.

Mr. Ball.

And where do you live?

Mr. Smith.

328 1/2 East Davis.

Mr. Ball.

What is your age?

Mr. Smith.

Twenty.

Mr. Ball.

You live with whom? Whom do you live with?

Mr. Smith.

My mother.

Mr. Ball.

At this address?

Mr. Smith.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Tell me something about yourself, where you were born and where you went to school.

Mr. Smith.

I was born in Pine Bluff, Ark., and went to school Wason Chapel.

Mr. Ball.

How far through school did you go?

Mr. Smith.

Three months into the 12th grade.