To the best of your knowledge, when the suspect was brought into the police station, up to the time you left him with Captain Fritz there, had anyone mentioned a Beckley Street address?

Mr. Hill.

No.

Mr. Belin.

What else did the suspect say, if anything?

Mr. Hill.

Other than the statement he made about brutality in the theatre, and other than the statements he made in the car about "Why are you treating me this way? The only thing I have done is carry a gun," and "Why are you hand-cuffing me, the only thing I have done is carry a gun" and when the comment was made about something of killing an officer, and he said something to the extent that you can only fry for that, and the man showed absolutely no emotion.
He gave the appearance of being arrogant, and yet he didn't make boastful statements. He was silent almost the entire time he was in the car except for the flareup of the brutality in the theatre, and the two statements or the three statements that he made in the car. He was silent almost the entire time until we got to the basement when he made the statement that he didn't know why he should hide his face, he didn't have anything to be ashamed of.

Mr. Belin.

When the comment was made about frying, did any police officer in the car say in substance, "Maybe you will find out," or something like that?
Do you remember anything like that being said?

Mr. Hill.

There was probably a sarcastic remark to that made, but as to the exact words of it, "You will find out," or "You will get a chance to find out," but I am sure there was an answer to his question, and I don't recall who said it.
But as near as I can remember, it came from the back seat.

Mr. Belin.

Was there any reply by the suspect along the lines of "Well, I understand it only takes a minute," or something like that?
Did you hear him say anything like that?

Mr. Hill.

I don't recall that statement. It could have been made, because there were about half a dozen conversations actually going on in the car.
At one point after I opened the pistol, and I did open it in the car, and found that one of the slugs or one of the shells did have an indention to the primer that could have been caused by the hammer, we made a comment that he tried or he did pull the trigger, and this was in line with what Hutson had asked me, in the theatre, had I heard the gun click.

Mr. Belin.

Anything else that happened in the car?

Mr. Hill.

Not that I can recall of specific detail.
There was quite a bit of excitement.
Everybody had been in the little scuffle and were huffing and puffing, and especially me, as fat as I am, but there weren't any, I don't recall any more direct statements. There was nothing ever said in the car that I can recall that would have put it at this time. We didn't have enough to be sure that maybe the two were tied together.

Mr. Belin.

Anything else about the demeanor of the witness at all?

Mr. Hill.

Other than as I said, he gave the appearance of arrogance, but yet he did not talk boastfully. In fact, he talked very little. This was one of the things that stuck out most about him in my mind, was how quiet he did keep.
His commenting or relating the statement that the only crime he had committed was carrying a gun in the theatre, and the refusal to answer questions as to what his name was and where he lived, this is not unusual immediately after an arrest, because when a man is arrested, he is keyed up too, and probably thinks that the best thing that they can do is keep their mouth shut, and he had previously in the theatre said he wanted his attorney.

Mr. Belin.

He had said this in the theatre?

Mr. Hill.

Yes; when we arrested him, he wanted his lawyer. He knew his rights.

Mr. Belin.

Did he ever say he requested an attorney on the way down to the police station?

Mr. Hill.

I do not recall.
I was going to say that by making the statement earlier, it is possible, it is a

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