Mr. Belin.

Did he sit down in the same seat he had been in to begin with?

Mr. Brewer.

I don't remember if it was the same seat or not.

Mr. Belin.

Then what happened?

Mr. Brewer.

I heard a noise outside, and I opened the door, and the alley, I guess it was filled with police cars and policemen were on the fire exits and stacked around the alley, and they grabbed me, a couple of them and held and searched me and asked me what I was doing there, and I told them that there was a guy in the theatre that I was suspicious of, and he asked me if he was still there.
And I said, yes, I just seen him. And he asked me if I would point him out.
And I and two or three other officers walked out on the stage and I pointed him out, and there were officers coming in from the front of the show, I guess, coming toward that way, and officers going from the back.

Mr. Belin.

Then what did you see?

Mr. Brewer.

Well, I saw this policeman approach Oswald, and Oswald stood up and I heard some hollering. I don't know exactly what he said, and this man hit Patrolman McDonald.

Mr. Belin.

You say this man hit Patrolman McDonald. Did you know it was Patrolman McDonald?

Mr. Brewer.

I didn't know his name, but I had seen him quite a few times around Oak Cliff. But I didn't know his name.

Mr. Belin.

Then you later found out this was Patrolman McDonald?

Mr. Brewer.

Yes.

Mr. Belin.

Did you say this man was the same man?

Mr. Brewer.

The same man that had stood in my lobby that I followed to the show.

Mr. Belin.

Who hit who first?

Mr. Brewer.

Oswald hit McDonald first, and he knocked him to the seat.

Mr. Belin.

Who knocked who?

Mr. Brewer.

He knocked McDonald down. McDonald fell against one of the seats. And then real quick he was back up.

Mr. Belin.

When you say he was----

Mr. Brewer.

McDonald was back up. He just knocked him down for a second and he was back up. And I jumped off the stage and was walking toward that, and I saw this gun come up and----in Oswald's hand, a gun up in the air.

Mr. Belin.

Did you see from where the gun came?

Mr. Brewer.

No.

Mr. Belin.

You saw the gun up in the air?

Mr. Brewer.

And somebody hollered "He's got a gun."
And there were a couple of officers fighting him and taking the gun away from him, and they took the gun from him, and he was fighting, still fighting, and I heard some of the police holier, I don't know who it was, "Kill the President, will you." And I saw fists flying and they were hitting him.

Mr. Belin.

Was he fighting back at that time?

Mr. Brewer.

Yes; he was fighting back.

Mr. Belin.

Then what happened?

Mr. Brewer.

Well, just in a short time they put the handcuffs on him and they took him out.

Mr. Belin.

Did you see police officers hit him after they got the handcuffs on him?

Mr. Brewer.

No; I didn't see them.

Mr. Belin.

Did you see any police officer hit Oswald after Oswald stopped fighting?

Mr. Brewer.

No.

Mr. Belin.

Did you hear Oswald say anything?

Mr. Brewer.

As they were taking him out, he stopped and turned around and hollered, "I am not resisting arrest," about twice. "I am not resisting arrest." And they took him on outside.

Mr. Belin.

Then what happened?

Mr. Brewer.

Well, then, the police officers and plainclothesmen, whoever they were, got everybody that was in the theatre and set them aside, and