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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. VII - Page 579« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Perdue William Lawrence)

Mr. Griffin.
there are a number of handwritten notations on it and I'm going to mark this on the back.
Captain Lawrence.
I believe this to be the handwriting of Chief Batchelor.
Mr. Griffin.
I'm going to mark this Capt. P. W. Lawrence Deposition, July 24, 1964, Exhibit No. 1. In handing this memo to you, did Chief Batchelor say anything to you about what the men on the overpass were supposed to do?
Captain Lawrence.
He was stationing the men on the overpass to see that no one else came onto the overpass so that no one would be over the motorcade when the President passed under it.
Mr. Griffin.
Other than stationing people at intersections, were you given any instructions as to stationing men in between blocks?
Captain Lawrence.
Not at that time.
Mr. Griffin.
Now, after the 18th of November did you later receive further instructions from your superiors?
Captain Lawrence.
Yes, sir, I did.
Mr. Griffin.
When did you next receive instructions?
Captain Lawrence.
I next received instructions well, during the week we discussed this with Chief Lunday and Assistant Chief Batchelor---certain assignments as far as the motorcycle escorts were concerned, and not directly at that time regarding stationing of any men on any particular corner.
I might add that when Lieutenant Southard and I went over this route, we found one intersection open and which was on Record Street, which raised our total---this is my writing here [indicating].
Mr. Griffin.
Yes, this is at the bottom of the second page and you have written in the word "Record."
Captain Lawrence.
That's right----that's my handwriting and during that week I was next told, of course, to contact other people regarding the route connected with the motorcade to see that no trains would be coming across at the time that the Presidential motorcade was passing through.
Mr. Griffin.
These were grade crossings that you are talking about?
Captain Lawrence.
Grade crossings--yes.
Mr. Griffin.
At the time of your first meeting with Chief Batchelor were you given any special instructions about the protection of the President?
Captain Lawrence.
None.
Mr. Griffin.
When was the next time you received some instructions from one of your superiors?
Captain Lawrence.
The next time was, to the best of my knowledge, the motorcade assignments--possibly 2 days before the President arrived---I asked how we would escort this motorcade.
Mr. Griffin.
And with whom did you discuss that?
Captain Lawrence.
Chief Lunday and Chief Batchelor.
Mr. Griffin.
Was anybody from the Secret Service present at that time?
Captain Lawrence.
Not at that time no.
Mr. Griffin.
What were you told about the purpose of the officers that were being provided, if anything?
Captain Lawrence.
I was told that there would be these lead motorcycle officers, and that we would also have these other officers alongside the President's car and the Vice President's car, and some of the others that would be in the motorcade, and approximately how many officers would be needed for the escort, and at that time I had prepared a list of 18 solo motorcycle officers, this included three solo sergeants.
I was also instructed that about this motorcade--that when it reached Stemmons Expressway, Chief Batchelor told me that he wanted a solo motorcycle officer in each traffic lane, each of the five traffic lanes waiting for the motorcade, so that no vehicles, on Stemmons Expressway would pass the motorcade at all and he wanted these solo motorcycle officers to pull away from the escort and get up there on Stemmons Freeway and block the traffic, and some of these officers, he stated, would pull past the Presidential car.
Mr. Griffin.
Would this include blocking oncoming traffic?
Captain Lawrence.
This would stop all oncoming traffic on Stemmons Freeway.
Mr. Griffin.
All the way to the Trade Mart?
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