Mr. Liebeler.

So, after you searched behind the north and west of the School Book Depository Building, you came back up to position No. 1?

Mr. Smith.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

You then remained in the general area of the School Book Depository Building for some period, and then you were relieved from duty?

Mr. Smith.

Well, I went back to work again on my regular duty. I had been working evenings, and I had to report to work-- it was 6 o'clock, I think, and after that I went directly to work.

Mr. Liebeler.

You didn't see anybody or anything that you could associate with the shots or with the assassination itself other than you have already described?

Mr. Smith.

No, sir; I have thought about it many times. I didn't see any smoke or anything.

Mr. Liebeler.

And at no time did you see any activity down on the railroad tracks that you associated with the assassination?

Mr. Smith.

No, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

Is what you heard that day consistent with the proposition that the shots came from the School Book Depository Building?

Mr. Smith.

They could have come from there and they could not--I just don't know. Where I was standing it just sounded like it was all round there. When I first thought--I don't know whether it actually came from here or not--you know, the thoughts of sounds coming--I don't know whether they were coming from here or not---it just looked like this was a good place for them to come from and I guess that's the reason I ran down there.

Mr. Liebeler.

Down around No. 7 pointed out on this Exhibit No. 354?

Mr. Smith.

Yes; I have no earthly idea where they actually came from.

Mr. Liebeler.

All right, thank you very much. I appreciate your coming in.

Mr. Smith.

That's okay.

Abraham Zapruder
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Testimony of Abraham Zapruder

The testimony of Abraham Zapruder was taken at 1 p.m., on July 22, 1964, in the office of the U.S. attorney, 301 Post Office Building, Bryan and Ervay Streets, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. Wesley J. Liebeler, assistant counsel of the President's Commission.

Mr. Liebeler.

Mr. Zapruder, would you stand and take the oath, please?
Do you solemnly swear this testimony you are about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?

Mr. Zapruder.

I do.

Mr. Liebeler.

My name is Wesley J. Liebeler.

Mr. Zapruder.

What is your name?

Mr. Liebeler.

Wesley J. Liebeler [spelling] L-i-e-b-e-l-e-r. I am an attorney on the staff of the President's Commission on the Assassination of President Kennedy. I have been authorized to take your testimony by the Commission pursuant to authority granted to the Commission by Executive Order 11130 dated November 29, 1963, and the joint resolution of Congress, No. 137.
Under the rules of the Commission you are entitled to have your attorney present, should you desire to have him here. You are entitled to 3 days' notice of the hearing .and you need not answer any questions you think would violate any rights or privileges that you may have. Did you receive the 3 days' notice of the hearing?

Mr. Zapruder.

I was out of town--I was in New York and my secretary called--she called me and told me that she made an appointment for me and that's about all that I know, Mr. Liebeler. The other proceedings--I don't know.

Mr. Liebeler.

I assume that you are willing to go ahead with your testimony today since you are here.

Mr. Zapruder.

Yes, I am.