Mr. Smith.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Cater-cornered--and I show you Commission Exhibit No. 354, and it has a letter "A" marked there, and that will be approximately where you were standing; is that right?

Mr. Smith.

That's about where I was.

Mr. Liebeler.

What did you do from the time you stationed yourself in that position?

Mr. Smith.

Well, I stood there and talked some to the crowd after they finally formed. They didn't start forming until around 11 o'clock, and looked over here at the Texas School Book Depository Building and just stood there mainly--there wasn't much to do.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you look up at the buildings that were around this intersection here at Elm Street at all?

Mr. Smith.

Yes; I did.

Mr. Liebeler.

As you were standing there at position "A" in Exhibit No. 354, you were in a position to observe the south windows of the Texas School Book Depository Building, were you not?

Mr. Smith.

That's right.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you notice any windows open up there?

Mr. Smith.

I don't recall at this time whether there was any open. I'm sure there were, but I just don't remember it specifically--any specifically being open. There's quite a few people looking out the windows and what not of the various buildings.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you see any suspicious activities of any kind in any of those windows?

Mr. Smith.

No, sir; I didn't.

Mr. Liebeler.

What happened when the motorcade came down Main Street and turned right on Houston Street; what did you do then?

Mr. Smith.

I just stood parade rest there, you know, trying to keep the people back. I was facing the motorcade .they had come out in the street here a little bit and I just stood there.

Mr. Liebeler.

So you were facing west?

Mr. Smith.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

You did not go out into the intersection at any point here and help hold traffic back at that intersection, did you?

Mr. Smith.

No; I did not.

Mr. Liebeler.

So, you stood there as the motorcade went by, facing west down toward the triple underpass and the motorcade turned left and started to go down Elm Street, is that right?

Mr. Smith.

That's right.

Mr. Liebeler.

From where you are standing, could you observe the railroad tracks that went over the triple underpass down there at the bottom of Exhibit No. 354?

Mr. Smith.

I'm sure I could see them from that location, but I don't remember, you know, noticing them. I had noticed them earlier in the day, probably from that location, and I had saw some officers up there, and other than that, I don't remember seeing anything else. I do specifically remember seeing some officers on the overpass here.

Mr. Liebeler.

As the motorcade turned and went down Elm Street, what happened?

Mr. Smith.

I heard three shots, I guess they were shots. I thought that the first two were just firecrackers and kept my position and after the third one, I ran down the street here.

Mr. Liebeler.

You ran down Elm Street?

Mr. Smith.

Well, ran down Houston Street and then to Elm, and actually, I guess it was a little bit farther over than this, because after they turned the corner I couldn't see any of the cars, there were so many people standing there around the corner.

Mr. Liebeler.

So, you were a little bit farther south down Elm Street than Position "A"?

Mr. Smith.

Yes; possibly a little bit farther south than that---yes; I was under these windows here.