(Testimony of James Thomas Tague)
Mr. Liebeler.
Immediately to your left, or toward the back? Of course, now we have other evidence that would indicate that the shots did come from the Texas School Book Depository, but see if we can disregard that and determine just what you heard when the shots were fired in the first place.
Mr. Tague.
To recall everything is almost impossible. Just an impression is all I recall, is the fact that my first impression was that up by the, whatever you call the monument, or whatever it was----
Mr. Liebeler.
Up above No. 7?
Mr. Tague.
That somebody was throwing firecrackers up there, that the police were running up there to see what was going on, and this was my first impression. Somebody was causing a disturbance, that somebody had drawn a gun and was shooting at the crowd, and the police were running up to it. When I saw the people throwing themselves on the ground is when I realized there was serious trouble, and I believe that was after the third shot was fired.
Mr. Liebeler.
Your impression of where the shots came from was much the result of the activity near No. 7?
Mr. Tague.
Not when I heard the shots.
Mr. Liebeler.
You thought they had come from the area between Nos. 7 and 5?
Mr. Tague.
I believe they came from up in here.
Mr. Liebeler.
Back in the area"C"?
Mr. Tague.
Right.
Mr. Liebeler.
Behind the concrete monument here between Nos. 5 and 7, toward the general area of "C"?
Mr. Tague.
Yes.
Mr. Liebeler.
Did you look up near the railroad tracks in that area after you heard the shots?
Mr. Tague.
I looked all around. I looked at the complete area to try to find out where the disturbance was. And for some reason, after the third shot, I believe I ducked down back in here.
Mr. Liebeler.
Under the railroad tracks?
Mr. Tague.
Right. Behind an abutment. And when I stuck my head outside, the Secret Service car was just starting to pass under the underpass.
Mr. Liebeler.
The car immediately behind the President. Did you see any evidence of anybody having fired from the area on the railroad tracks above the triple underpass?
Mr. Tague.
None.
Mr. Liebeler.
Do you think that it is consistent with what you heard and saw that day, that the shots could have come from the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository?
Mr. Tague.
Yes.
Mr. Liebeler.
There was in fact a considerable echo in that area?
Mr. Tague.
There was no echo from where I stood. I was asked this question before, and there was no echo. It was just a loud, oh, not a cannon, but definitely louder and more solid than a rifleshot.
Mr. Liebeler.
So you, being in a place where there was no echo, you were able to recognize how many shots there were quite clearly?
Mr. Tague.
I believe so.
Mr. Liebeler.
And you say you heard three shots?
Mr. Tague.
That is right.
Mr. Liebeler.
Do you remember seeing anything else or observing anything else that day that you think would be helpful to the Commission, that I haven't asked you about?
Mr. Tague.
Not that I can think of. There is lots of things that you recall about something like that, that you don't recall for certain. What struck me the most was that everybody said all three shots were accounted for. I felt very strongly that the third shot hit down there, and there was the deputy sheriff and the patrolman down under the bridge right there with me.
Mr. Liebeler.
Now you say you thought it was the third shot that hit down there?
Mr. Tague.
No; I said I thought that all three shots were accounted for. All the newspaper accounts for months said all the shots were accounted for.
Mr. Liebeler.
In terms of hitting in the car?
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