Mr. Liebeler.

over Elm Street if you had been on Main Street and gone under the triple underpass?

Mr. Smith.

They merge.

Mr. Liebeler.

They all merge together down there?

Mr. Smith.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

So as far as you know, there was no reason why the motorcade couldn't have gone straight down Elm Street and gone on to the Stemmons Freeway headed for the trade mart?

Mr. Smith.

As far as I know, there is no reason.

Mr. Liebeler.

Is it possible that as you come down Main Street, if you stayed directly on Main Street going under the triple underpass, that you might have difficulty in making the turn with a big car from Main Street to go onto Stem-mons Freeway?

Mr. Smith.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

I don't think I have any more questions about the situation, unless you can think of something else that you might have seen or observed that day that I haven't asked you about, that you think the Commission should know.

Mr. Smith.

Sir, I just can't think of anything else.

Mr. Liebeler.

I want to thank you very much for coming over. I appreciate your cooperation.

Mr. Smith.

Yes, sir; thank you.

Welcome Eugene Barnett
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Testimony of Welcome Eugene Barnett

The testimony of Welcome Eugene Barnett was taken at 3:50 p.m., on July 23, 1964, in the office of the U.S. attorney, 301 Post Office Building, Bryan and Ervay Streets, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. Wesley J. Liebeler, assistant counsel of the President's Commission.

Mr. Liebeler.

Before you sit down, will you raise your right hand? Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you are about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?

Mr. Barnett.

I do.

Mr. Liebeler.

Please sit down. My name is Wesley J. Liebeler. I am an attorney for the President's Commission investigating the assassination of President Kennedy. I have been authorized to take your testimony by the Commission, pursuant to authority granted to it by Executive Order 11130 dated November 29, 1963, and joint resolution of Congress No. 137. Pursuant to the rules of the Commission governing the taking of testimony, you are entitled to have an attorney present if you want one, and you are entitled to 3 days' notice of .the hearing. I know you did not get the 3 days' notice because of schedule difficulties that we had, and you were just advised of it this morning, I believe. I assume, however, that since you are here, that you are prepared to go ahead with your testimony without having an attorney.

Mr. Barnett.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Would you state your full name for the record?

Mr. Barnett.

Welcome Eugene Barnett.

Mr. Liebeler.

When and where were you born?

Mr. Barnett.

July 12, 1932, New Hope, Tex.

Mr. Liebeler.

You are apparently a uniformed officer of the Dallas Police Department, isn't that right?

Mr. Barnett.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

How long have you been in the Dallas police?

Mr. Barnett.

Eight and a half years.

Mr. Liebeler.

It is my understanding that you were assigned to the area of Elm and Houston Streets on November 22, 1963; is that correct?