Mr. Willis.

In slide No. 4 he was looking pretty much toward--straight ahead, and she was looking more to the left, which would be my side of the street. Then when the first shot was fired, she turned to the right toward him and he more or less slumped forward, and it caused me to wonder if he were hit, although I couldn't say.
(Discussion off the record.)

Mr. Liebeler.

In order to clarify some of the discussion we have had about the various number of slides, I want to mark a set of your slides as Willis Exhibit No. 1 and I have initialed a set of these, Mr. Willis, with my own initials, and I will ask you to do the same thing for the purpose of identification so we know what we are talking about when we refer to this exhibit.
(Mr. Willis marks initials.)

Mr. Liebeler.

We have already established that the picture that has been . marked as Hudson's Exhibit No. 1 is a print made from the negative or from slide No. 5 on Willis' Exhibit No. 1; is that correct?

Mr. Willis.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you have occasion to look up toward the railroad tracks that go across the triple underpass at any time, at about the time the President was shot?

Mr. Willis.

Yes; I did, after the third shot was fired.

Mr. Liebeler.

Was there anybody up there? Did you see anybody up there on those railroad tracks?

Mr. Willis.

Yes, sir; I had noticed before the President's arrival that there were spectators up there, but there were also policemen up there.

Mr. Liebeler.

You did see policemen up there?

Mr. Willis.

Yes, sir; there were definitely policemen up there among the spectators.

Mr. Liebeler.

About how many spectators would you say were up there? Was there a big crowd?

Mr. Willis.

No, sir; there was no big crowd in the area, actually. But I would say, and this is strictly a wild guess, maybe 2 dozen.

Mr. Liebeler.

Did you see any evidence of any shots having been fired from that direction?

Mr. Willis.

No, sir; there was no doubt in my mind. I saw people falling on the ground and police officers racing over toward a concrete wall.

Mr. Liebeler.

Across the street from Elm Street?

Mr. Willis.

Across the street from Elm Street on the same side as the School Book Depository, which goes down the hill toward the underpass, and the policemen started going over there, called to see if someone, evidently thinking it came from that direction, and then is when I started to ring this building. I knew it came from high above directly across the street from me, and that is the one thing I was absolutely positive about.

Mr. Liebeler.

You made that judgment from the sound of the shots?

Mr. Willis.

From the sound, absolutely. And this may be verified by the fact that I took several pictures of the crowd immediately around that building.

Mr. Liebeler.

Yes; I notice.

Mr. Willis.

I had no doubt about that, because I was that certain in my own mind.

Mr. Liebeler.

I don't think I have any other questions about these pictures, unless you can think of something else that you think I should have asked you about, that I have forgotten about.

Mr. Willis.

In slide No. 6, people were still on the ground and I took that picture, knowing that the party had come to a temporary halt before proceeding on to the underpass, and I have an arrow there which shows the back of the Secret Service agent climbing onto the back of the presidential car.

Mr. Liebeler.

That is that far in the background, way in the back of the picture, or down toward the underpass of the street?

Mr. Willis.

Yes; that would be the background.

Mr. Liebeler.

I think I would like to ask your daughter about three or four questions about what she saw of it. We might just bring her in while you are still here.

Linda Kay Willis