Mrs. Robertson.

say exactly, but I go on the freeway, and it's probably 20 minutes and if it's heavy traffic probably 25--you know what I mean?

Mr. Hubert.

Would it be fair to state, then, that you probably left at about 4:30?

Mrs. Robertson.

I would assume so. Now, I'm not saying to the very minute or anything like that, but I am saying that approximately--if it was after 5 o'clock, it was very shortly after when I got in the car, you know, I did not run what you would call late by hours or so.

Mr. Hubert.

Now I'm going to show you two documents, but I want to identify them with reference to your deposition, so I am marking a document which has been already identified as Commission Exhibit No. 838, as follows: "Dallas, Texas, May 28, 1964, Exhibit No. 1, of the deposition of Mrs. Mary Jane Robertson," and I am signing my name below that, all of which appears in the left margin, and I am doing precisely the same to the other document, which bears the identification, Commission Exhibit No. 709, except that I am marking this as Exhibit No. 2 of the deposition of Mary Jane Robertson, signing my name to that.
Now, Mrs. Robertson, I would ask you to look at Exhibit No. 1 and Exhibit No. 2 which are identified and ask you if that is the letter to which you have previously referred as having been written or typed by you for Lieutenant Revill?

Mrs. Robertson.

I didn't this--because I know nothing about this down here [indicating].

Mr. Hubert.

You are pointing to Exhibit No. I and you are covering with your hand the affidavit portion?

Mrs. Robertson.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

You say you know nothing about that?

Mrs. Robertson.

No.

Mr. Hubert.

The letter itself, you have noticed that they are actually identical, one appears to be an original and the other a copy?

Mrs. Robertson.

That's right--I was trying to see if there was a difference.

Mr. Hubert.

Do you remember writing these letters yourself?

Mrs. Robertson.

Why, yes; I wrote them.

Mr. Hubert.

Is there anything on the letter that identifies you as having written them, I mean like the usual little marks put on the letter by a stenographer?

Mrs. Robertson.

No; that's something I always do, but what I mean, the state of confusion--well---I'm sure you can't have a conception of the state of confusion that office was in---our main secretary was out, she had a dental appointment and she had left earlier that morning, there were only two girls in the office and the two deskmen.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, you do identify the letter?

Mrs. Robertson.

Definitely--I identify the letter.

Mr. Hubert.

You identify it from the sense of it or what?

Mrs. Robertson.

Well, this is something that I did not memorize verbatim, and could not have repeated--what I mean-- per word, but I could have told you the general gist of the letter, is what I mean, yes--the actual facts.

Mr. Hubert.

Was it dictated to you?

Mrs. Robertson.

Lieutenant Revill came in and said, "Mary Jane, I would like for you to take a letter," and like I said, our stenographer was out of the office on an appointment, and I said, "Of course, now, Jack, this has been a hard day and you know I don't take shorthand and if you will be patient with me and let me write it out in longhand, I will be happy to do it for you." That is when I made my phone call home, and so he said, "Well, you take your time," and he said, "I know you don't take shorthand and that's quite all right," and I had him even spell such names so as to be Certain of--you know--the agent's name and all like that. He sat across the desk from me, as we are doing here.

Mr. Hubert.

In other words, it was written out in your hand?

Mrs. Robertson.

Yes; now, Jack, as I remember--I speak of him, we are very informal in our office, as Lieutenant Revill--Lieutenant Revill, as I recall, did have several papers or rough drafts that possibly he had written out or