Mr. Stern.

At the conclusion of your interview, did you leave the office in which he was being guarded and leave him behind?

Mr. Clements.

Yes; I did.

Mr. Stern.

When you next saw him at this press conference in the basement, can you describe the conditions in that room? How many people were present?

Mr. Clements.

The corridor on the third floor was quite crowded, and when I reached the basement there were, I would estimate, perhaps 50 people, all told, including officers, members of the press, perhaps others. There was a crowded condition I would say.

Mr. Stern.

Quite a great deal of noise?

Mr. Clements.

I don't recall any great amount of noise. Although, I do recall that members of the press were attempting to get Oswald to respond to questions.

Mr. Stern.

How did he seem at that time?

Mr. Clements.

I saw no difference in his appearance to that at the time I had talked with him.

Mr. Stern.

Did he then seem to you to be in command of himself, and alert?

Mr. Clements.

Yes; he did.

Mr. Stern.

Mr. Clements, did you make a record of your interview with Oswald?

Mr. Clements.

I did.

Mr. Stern.

How soon after the interview did you dictate that memorandum?

Mr. Clements.

The following day, November 23, 1963.

Mr. Stern.

And have you reviewed that memorandum to refresh your memory of what occurred?

Mr. Clements.

I have.

Mr. Stern.

And you had no further contact, or didn't observe Oswald, Mr. Clements, as I understand it, from the time of the press conference until he was, himself, killed on November 24?

Mr. Clements.

That's correct.

Mr. Stern.

Thank you very much.

Mr. Clements.

Yes.

Mr. Stern.

The reporter will transcribe your testimony. You can, if you wish, review a copy of the transcript and sign it, or waive your signature and the reporter will send it directly to the Commission, whichever you prefer.

Mr. Clements.

I think I would prefer to review it after it is typed.

Mr. Stern.

Fine.
The reporter will get in touch with you and give you an opportunity to review it.
Thank you very much for coming in.

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Gregory Lee Olds

Testimony of Gregory Olds Lee

The testimony of Gregory Lee Olds was taken at 4:05 p.m., on April 8, 1964, in the office of the U.S. attorney, 301 Post Office Building, Bryan and Ervay Streets, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. Samuel A. Stern, assistant counsel of the President's Commission.

Mr. Stern.

Will you stand and raise your right hand, please.
Do you solemnly swear that the evidence you are about to give shall be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?

Mr. Olds.

I do.

Mr. Stern.

Sit down, please, Mr. Olds. For the record will you state your name and address.

Mr. Olds.

Gregory Lee Olds, 1316 Timberlake, Richardson, Tex.

Mr. Stern.

What is your profession?

Mr. Olds.

I am an editor of a weekly newspaper.

Mr. Stern.

Where?

Mr. Olds.

In Richardson.

Mr. Stern.

What is your connection with the Dallas Civil Liberties Union?