Mr. Holmes.

search, which they use IBM equipment to kick out this money order, and about 7 o'clock Saturday night they did kick out the original money order and sent it over by, so they said, by special conveyance to the Secret Service, chief of Secret Service at Washington now, and it turned out, so they said, to be the correct money order. I asked them by phone as to what it said on it, and it said it had been issued to A. J. Hidell, which to me then was the tip that I had the correct money order. Up to then I didn't know whether I had the correct money order or not.

Mr. Belin.

How did you know about the use of the name A. J. Hidell?

Mr. Holmes.

When the box was opened in the name of Lee H. Oswald. Because for two reasons. I---one is, when he rented the post office box in New Orleans, he used the name of A. J. Hidell as one of the persons entitled to receive mail in that box.

Mr. Belin.

At that time did you know about that?

Mr. Holmes.

Yes.

Mr. Belin.

All right, what else?

Mr. Holmes.

In his billfold the police had found a draft registration card in the name of A. J. Hidell on his person at the time of his arrest, and I had seen it.

Mr. Belin.

Anything else now about this money order? Do you have a record of the number of the money order?

Mr. Holmes.

No; I don't.

Mr. Belin.

All right, what was the next thing you did in connection with the investigation of the assassination?

Mr. Holmes.

Well, throughout the entire period I was feeding change of addresses as bits of information to the FBI and the Secret Service, and sort of a coordinating deal on it, but then about Sunday morning about 9:20----

Mr. Belin.

Pardon me a second. (Discussion off the record.) Anything else now, Mr. Holmes?

Mr. Holmes.

I might cover the record of his rental of the post office box in New Orleans. Do you want me to go into that?
Mr. BELIN. All right, go ahead.

Mr. Holmes.

The box rental records at New Orleans show that on June the 3d, 1963, post office box 30061 was rented to L. H. Oswald. Let me see there. Some of my information comes at times I see 30061 and at times I see 30016. I had it two places. One is a written memorandum on that new setup, and the other is what I took over the phone, and both of them show 61.

Mr. Belin.

All right, go ahead.

Mr. Holmes.

I think I got a copy.

Mr. Belin.

That is all right, you can go ahead.

Mr. Holmes.

This is at the Lafayette Square Station in New Orleans. At that time he showed his home address as 657 French Street, New Orleans. On this box rental application card, he showed as being entitled to also receive mail in the box, Marina Oswald, and A.J. Hidell. This box was closed on September 26, 1963, with instructions to forward mail addressed to 2515 West Fifth Street, Irving, Tex.
At the time this information was checked out in New Orleans by Postal Inspector Joe Zarza, two copies of the newspaper called "The Militant," were found in the box, which had not yet been forwarded. But there was a slipup. I hate to admit that.

Mr. Belin.

Anything else?

Mr. Holmes.

I presume my next part in connection with this was when I joined the interrogation period of Oswald on Sunday morning of November 24 at about 9:30 a.m.

Mr. Belin.

All right, now. Let me ask you this. Just what was the occasion of your joining this interrogation? How did you happen to be there?

Mr. Holmes.

I had been in and out of Captain Fritz' office on numerous occasions during this 2 1/2-day period.
On this morning I had no appointment. I actually started to church with my wife. I got to church and I said, "You get out, I am going down and see if I can do something for Captain Fritz. I imagine he is as sleepy as I am."
So I drove directly on down to the police station and walked in, and as I did,