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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. VII - Page 294« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Harry D. Holmes)

Mr. Holmes.
So he was worrying then as to how he could get that number.
So I knew about the post office money order. They said that Oswald---they said that also this FBI agent had passed on the information that I don't know whether he told him or I called the FBI after--I went on up to my office, but somewhere I got the information that the FBI had knowledge that a gun of this particular Italian make and caliber had been purchased from Klein's Sporting Goods in Chicago, that it had been purchased, and the FBI furnished me the information that a money order of some description in the amount of $21.95 had been used as reimbursement for the gun that had been purchased from Klein's in Chicago, and that the purchase date was March 20, 1963. I immediately had some men begin to search the Dallas money order records with the thought that they might have used a U.S. postal money order to buy this gun.
I didn't have any luck, so along about 11 o'clock in the morning, Saturday, I had my boys call the postal inspector. Oh, wait a minute, let's back up.
I had my secretary go out and purchase about half a dozen books on outdoor type magazines such as Field and Stream, with the thought that I might locate this gun to identify it, and I did.
Mr. Belin.
You have what magazine?
Mr. Holmes.
Field and Stream of November 1963.
Mr. Belin.
You found a Field and Stream magazine of just November 1963?
Mr. Holmes.
It was the current magazine on the rack.
Mr. Belin.
You got it to look for a gun and identified it in this magazine?
Is this the page? I will call it Holmes Deposition Exhibit 2.
Mr. Holmes.
Here, page 98.
Mr. Belin.
Well, it is on the back of a page numbered 98, is that right?
Mr. Holmes.
That's right.
Mr. Belin.
Or the front side. I am marking on the top of it, "Holmes Deposition Exhibit 2."
Was that the page you tore out?
Mr. Holmes.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Belin.
I notice there is a magazine or there is a number of guns identified on that page.
Mr. Holmes.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Belin.
I See one circled in red, is that correct?
Mr. Holmes.
That's correct.
Mr. Belin.
Who circled that in red?
Mr. Holmes.
I did.
Mr. Belin.
Then I see that it is a picture with a gun with a scope on it and it says, "6.5 Italian carbine," in big black letters. And underneath it says, "Late military issue. Only 40 inches overall. Weighs 7 lbs. Shows only slight use, test-fired and head spaced, ready for shooting. Turned-down bolt. 6-shot, clip fed, rear sight." And it is marked "$12.78."
Mr. Holmes.
With scope, it is $19.95.
Mr. Belin.
There is a number. That $12.78 says "C20-1196." And underneath that it says, "C20-750, carbine with brand new 4x- 3/4" diameter (illustrated) $19.95." Is that right?
Mr. Holmes.
That's correct.
Mr. Belin.
Then on the lower right-hand corner of the page there is a kind of place for clipping out of coupons It is marked "Klein's Sporting Goods at 227 West Washington Street, Chicago 6, Illinois," then there is a place for a box to be checked. It says, "cash customers, send check or money order in full. Unless otherwise specified, send $1.00 postage and handling on any size order . . . $1.50 on shotgun and rifles."
Then there is a place at the bottom of the page. It is a place for putting the name and address and the city and State, is that correct?
Mr. Holmes.
That's correct.
Mr. Belin.
Now I notice on a piece of scrap paper you have taken the $19.95 which would be the exact amount for the rifle with the scope, and then added the $1.50 for the charge that the coupon says for postage and handling and you come up with a total of $21.45.
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