Mr. Barnes.

I was told to standby until further notice.

Mr. Belin.

What was the next thing that occurred?

Mr. Barnes.

Officer Tippit was shot at 10th and Patton in Oak Cliff.

Mr. Belin.

What did you do then?

Mr. Barnes.

I immediately went to the scene of the shooting.

Mr. Belin.

What did you do when you got to the scene?

Mr. Barnes.

The first thing that I did was to check the right side of Tippit's car for fingerprints.

Mr. Belin.

Did you find any fingerprints on the right side of the car?

Mr. Barnes.

There was several smear prints. None of value.

Mr. Belin.

Where were these smear prints located?

Mr. Barnes.

Just below the top part of the door, and also on the right front fender.

Mr. Belin.

Why did you happen to check that particular portion of the vehicle for fingerprints?

Mr. Barnes.

I was told that the suspect which shot Tippit had come up to the right side of the car, and there was a possibility that he might have placed his hands on there.

Mr. Belin.

Did you do anything else at all out there?

Mr. Barnes.

I photographed the scene.

Mr. Belin.

Have you had much experience in photography?

Mr. Barnes.

I have been in the crime scene search section doing this work since August 1, 1956.

Mr. Belin.

When you photographed the scene, did you use flashbulb equipment or not?

Mr. Barnes.

No; I did not.

Mr. Belin.

I assume that because many crime scenes are inside, that you are also familiar with the operation of flash equipment?

Mr. Barnes.

We use flash equipment on the inside and outside when I think it is necessary.

Mr. Belin.

What kind of camera do you use?

Mr. Barnes.

Speedgraphic.

Mr. Belin.

Is that the kind of camera that newspaper cameramen often use?

Mr. Barnes.

A lot of them do.

Mr. Belin.

Anything else that you did out at the crime scene?

Mr. Barnes.

I photographed the scene; yes. There was a couple of hulls that was turned over to me.

Mr. Belin.

Do you mean empty shell casings?

Mr. Barnes.

Empty .38 caliber hulls was turned over to me at the scene by patrolman--I believe I would be safe in saying Poe, but I am not sure about that.

Mr. Belin.

How do you spell that?

Mr. Barnes.

P-o-e, I believe is the way he spells it.

Mr. Belin.

You think he was the one that turned over some shells?

Mr. Barnes.

I believe it is. I am not too sure right now, but I believe that is what is on the report. I would have to check it to be sure.

Mr. Belin.

Would these be on your report?

Mr. Barnes.

It would be on our report, at the crime scene search section.

Mr. Belin.

Is there anything else that was turned over to you at the scene besides these hulls that you think Patrolman Poe turned over?

Mr. Barnes.

Not that I can remember at this time.

Mr. Belin.

While you were out there, were any additional hulls found other than these two?

Mr. Barnes.

Yes. Captain Doughty picked up another hull, .38 caliber.

Mr. Belin.

Did you see Captain Doughty pick it up?

Mr. Barnes.

I did not.

Mr. Belin.

Were you advised as to anyone who might have pointed it out to Captain Doughty, or did he get it himself, or what?

Mr. Barnes.

I heard that someone pointed it out to him and he picked it up.

Mr. Belin.

You mean some citizen?

Mr. Barnes.

Some citizen pointed it out to him, and he picked it up?