(Testimony of C. W. Brown)
Mr. Brown.
when he was employed, and what he was doing, and what type work he did there.
Mr. Belin.
Did he indicate where Oswald was, at the time of the shooting?
Mr. Brown.
No; he did not know where Oswald was at the time of the shooting.
Mr. Belin.
Did he say whether or not he had ever seen Oswald subsequent to the time of the shooting before he saw him in the police department?
Mr. Brown.
Yes; he saw him that morning. He gave him some stuff to do.
Mr. Belin.
I mean after the time of the shooting of the President?
Mr. Brown.
No; he did not see him.
Mr. Belin.
Did he say where he, Shelley, was?
Mr. Brown.
Yes; I have it in his affidavit. I don't remember where he said he was.
Mr. Belin.
But you took an affidavit from him?
Mr. Brown.
Yes; I did. I don't have that report with me.
Mr. Belin.
We have a copy of it here, but we are going to take the deposition of Mr. Shelley and we will get it then.
Mr. Brown.
All right.
Mr. Belin.
Now, also, I believe your partner, Mr. Senkel took an affidavit of Bonnie Ray Williams, is that correct, at that same time?
Mr. Brown.
That's right; yes, sir.
Mr. Belin.
He was a Negro employee?
Mr. Brown.
That's right.
Mr. Belin.
Why did you take his affidavit?
Mr. Brown.
He was there employed. He was getting the affidavit from every employee in the building that day, for the reason of where they were, what they saw, and what they heard then during this assassination.
Mr. Belin.
Anything else that you did on that day of November 22, that you think involved the assassination in any way, shape, or form?
I will ask you this. Detective Brown, you made a memorandum with regard to your actions on November 22 and November 23, did you not?
Mr. Brown.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Belin.
Do you have any memorandum pertaining to any showups that you participated in?
Mr. Brown.
Yes; on the 22d of November I had a showup with my partner, McWatters, who is an employee of the Dallas Transit Co. as a busdriver, who at that time identified Lee Harvey Oswald as No. 2 in the four-man lineup at 6:30 p.m.
Mr. Belin.
Was Lee Harvey Oswald the No. 2 man in that lineup?
Mr. Brown.
Yes, sir; he was. That is numbering, facing the stage from your left to right.
Mr. Belin.
You mean your left, the observers left?
Mr. Brown.
Yes; the observers left to his right.
Mr. Belin.
Do your notes, of their own accord, show who else was in the lineup besides Lee Harvey Oswald?
Mr. Brown.
No; it does not.
Mr. Belin.
Where would that information be available?
Mr. Brown.
I am not for sure on that, because during the time we were taking an affidavit from Mr. McWatters in regard to him seeing Lee Harvey Oswald on his bus, and also identifying his mark he made on the bus transfer.
Another officer had this stub, and the other three men in the lineup were for other witnesses to observe.
Mr. Belin.
You don't know who else was in the lineup?
Mr. Brown.
No; I did not get their names.
Mr. Belin.
Do you know what McWatters said when he made his identification?
Mr. Brown.
Yes. Mr. McWatters said, "Yes, he is the one that got on the bus. I gave him a transfer."
Mr. Belin.
Did you show Mr. McWatters any transfer that had been found in Oswald's possession?
Mr. Brown.
Yes; at the time he was in their office.
Mr. Belin.
Did you yourself show him that?
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