(Testimony of Daniel Gutierrez Lujan)
Mr. Ball.
Who asked you to do that?
Mr. Lujan.
An officer went in there and told me to stand up and I stand up and he looked at me and said, "Come out."
So, I came out, and he went and got three more.
Mr. Ball.
Got three more?
Mr. Lujan.
Got three more fellows.
Mr. Ball.
Three more fellows from jail?
Mr. Lujan.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball.
Did you know them?
Mr. Lujan.
No, sir.
Mr. Ball.
Had you ever seen them before?
Mr. Lujan.
No, sir.
Mr. Ball.
Have you ever seen them since?
Mr. Lujan.
No, sir.
Mr. Ball.
What did they look like?
Mr. Lujan.
About my size, darker.
Mr. Ball.
What is your size? What is your weight?
Mr. Lujan.
Weight about 170.
Mr. Ball.
What is your height?
Mr. Lujan.
About 5'8".
Mr. Ball.
And your hair is dark?
Mr. Lujan.
Black.
Mr. Ball.
It is black hair. And your eyes?
Mr. Lujan.
Brown.
Mr. Ball.
And brown, and, your complexion?
Mr. Lujan.
Olive?
Mr. Ball.
Are you of Mexican descent?
Mr. Lujan.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball.
You are very fair in color for a Mexican.
Mr. Lujan.
Yes.
Mr. Ball.
You have fair skin, haven't you?
Mr. Lujan.
Yes.
Mr. Ball.
What did the other man look like in the showup with you?
Mr. Lujan.
Oh, about my coloring, and about----
Mr. Ball.
Same coloring?
Mr. Lujan.
Yes.
Mr. Ball.
Or anywhere near the coloring of Oswald?
Mr. Lujan.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball.
You saw Oswald, didn't you?
Mr. Lujan.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball.
Where did you stand in the showup?
Mr. Lujan.
I was standing next to him, right next to him.
Mr. Ball.
Right next to him?
Mr. Lujan.
Were you handcuffed to him?
Mr. Lujan.
Yes.
Mr. Ball.
Did you hear him say anything?
Mr. Lujan.
He said he wanted a T-shirt. He wanted a T-shirt.
Mr. Ball.
Off the record.
(Discussion off the record.)
Mr. Ball.
On the record. Let me see, did I ask you where you were standing in the lineup?
Mr. Lujan.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball.
You were what would be----
Mr. Lujan.
Right next to him.
Mr. Ball.
Which was the right, to your right?
Mr. Lujan.
No; he was standing right here, handcuffed----
Mr. Ball.
To the right?
Mr. Lujan.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball.
You were handcuffed to Oswald?
Mr. Lujan.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball.
He was complaining, was he?
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