Mr. Belin.

you put down as to how many screws in a mount this rifle found in the School Book Depository Building had?

Mr. Turner.

No, sir.

Mr. Belin.

All right; did he say whether or not he sold any ammunition for a 6.5 caliber Italian rifle?

Mr. Turner.

He stated he does not sell ammunition for those caliber rifles, 6.5.

Mr. Belin.

Did he say whether or not he would try and do any further checking to see if he could determine when the order was picked up?

Mr. Turner.

Yes, sir; he said he would check his sales tickets and see if he could find perhaps by the $6 charge approximately what date it might have been picked up.

Mr. Belin.

Did you ever go back and talk with him later to see whether or not he did this?

Mr. Turner.

We did, but he wasn't, as far as I can remember, he wasn't able to do any good. He might have had a lot of charges in that amount or nature or something.,

Mr. Belin.

Any other conversations with him that you recall right now?

Mr. Turner.

None that I can recall.

Mr. Belin.

What about the other man, Mr. Ryder? Did you ever talk to him?

Mr. Turner.

Yes, sir; I did.

Mr. Belin.

What did he say and what did you say?

Mr. Turner.

Mr. Ryder said that he wrote the work ticket up with the name Oswald on it. We showed him a picture of Oswald, and he stated that he cannot identify the man as the one who left the rifle with him.

Mr. Belin.

Did he say that he was sure that Oswald's picture was not the man, or did he just say he could not give positive identification one way or the other, if you remember?

Mr. Turner.

I don't recall the exact words, but I know he didn't identify him.

Mr. Belin.

What else did he say?

Mr. Turner.

Well, he said that, I believe, that this ticket was written up with a pencil., He said he usually writes with a pen, and he could recall some days in the past month when he had forgotten his pen or something, and he was going to check around and see if he could figure out what day the rifle might have been left there.

Mr. Belin.

Did he ever do this at all, or not?

Mr. Turner.

I don't recall whether he did or not.

Mr. Belin.

You don't have another record of your going back and talking to him, do you?

Mr. Turner.

No, sir.

Mr. Belin.

You don't know if the FBI did?

Mr. Turner.

No, sir.

Mr. Belin.

Did he say whether or not he had ever seen any pictures of the rifle?

Mr. Turner.

Said he had seen pictures of it, yes, sir; probably in the paper.

Mr. Belin.

Did he say whether or not those pictures enabled him to determine that he had or had not worked on it?

Mr. Turner.

He said from the pictures he had seen of it, he did not think that he was working on it.

Mr. Belin.

Why not?

Mr. Turner.

He thinks from the photos that the scope mounting had only two screws in it, and he states that they charged for three on this ticket, and said that he also thinks that he would remember a cheap scope like was attached to this rifle, and would have tried to sell the man another one, and would remember that.

Mr. Belin.

Anything else about him?

Mr. Turner.

No, sir.

Mr. Belin.

All right, now, I believe you said you took a picture of Oswald out to this Ronald Fischer that lived in Mesquite, Tex.?

Mr. Turner.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Belin.

Do you remember anything else that Fischer might have said about this?