Mr. Potts.

Yes; I do--now, I got the addresses off of---out of our records bureau--off of their arrest cards. I don't know whether they gave a fictitious address or not.

Mr. Ball.

Yes.

Mr. Potts.

Now, Horne is 2942 Ann Arbor.

Mr. Ball.

2942 Ann Arbor?

Mr. Potts.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

And that's Dallas?

Mr. Potts.

Yes; that's in Oak Cliff.

Mr. Ball.

And what was he charged with--why was he in jail?

Mr. Potts.

Traffic tickets--he had a number of traffic tickets.

Mr. Ball.

Traffic tickets?

Mr. Potts.

Yes; he had a stack of them--all on the same arrest date.

Mr. Ball.

He did?

Mr. Potts.

Yes---red lights and so on.

Mr. Ball.

And what about David Knapp, what was he in for?

Mr. Potts.

He was in for investigation of theft and he lived at 2922 Alabama. That's in Oak Cliff.

Mr. Ball.

And he was in for investigation?

Mr. Potts.

Investigation of burglary and theft.

Mr. Ball.

Was he convicted?

Mr. Potts.

Well, I don't know anything about that.

Mr. Ball.

You don't know where he is now?

Mr. Potts.

No, sir; I have never seen those men since.

Mr. Ball.

You don't know whether he was convicted or not?

Mr. Potts.

No, sir; I don't.

Mr. Ball.

What about Lujan?

Mr. Potts.

Daniel Lujan--[spelling] L-u-j-a-n, I guess that's the way you pronounce it. He was born February 15, 1937, and gave the address of 1804 Lear [spelling] L-e-a-r Street, and he was in for investigation of violation of State narcotic laws.

Mr. Ball.

And was he convicted, or do you know?

Mr. Potts.

I don't know.

Mr. Ball.

Do you know if any one of these men has ever been convicted of a felony?

Mr. Potts.

No, sir; I don't.

Mr. Ball.

You know nothing about that?

Mr. Potts.

I know nothing about them at all. In fact, that's the first time I have ever seen them and I suppose the last time.

Mr. Ball.

Now, did you take any further part in the investigation?

Mr. Potts.

That Presidential assassination--I think that's about all I done on that.

Mr. Ball.

I think that one day you went out and talked to Mr. Fischer?

Mr. Potts.

Yes; I talked to a boy named Fischer--on the 25th of November. Of course, you know I was off duty on the Ruby thing.

Mr. Ball.

Yes; I know that.

Mr. Potts.

I was at home then and I was sitting there and my wife said, "They are going to televise this transfer of Oswald." I said, "I've seen enough of that and I don't want to look at it." And she said, "We need milk and bread for lunch," and so I got up and got in the car and went to Safeway and was standing in line to check out there and a woman--well, it looked like a woman--came out and said, "Oswald has just been shot." Well, I thought that was a big joke, too, and went back out there and turned on the car radio and there that was. I came on back on duty that day.

Mr. Ball.

When you went out to see Mr. Fischer----

Mr. Potts.

Now, Mr. Turner had this information about this Fischer man. He and Mr. Senkel--they were in the motorcade that day. In fact, they were in the lead car.

Mr. Ball.

Senkel was?

Mr. Potts.

Senkel, Turner, and Chief Lumpkin were in the lead car in the motorcade, and I think Turner had gotten this information about this Fischer fellow. I had never heard about him until Turner asked me, he said, "Let's go