Mr. Ball.

What did Oswald say?

Mr. Boyd.

He said he didn't shoot anyone.

Mr. Ball.

Now, do you remember what Oswald said when Judge Johnston read the charge to Oswald? The charge of murder of Tippit, if he said anything.

Mr. Boyd.

I think he said something, but I cannot tell you what it was.

Mr. Ball.

You don't recall that?

Mr. Boyd.

No, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Oswald did make some statement, though?

Mr. Boyd.

I believe he said something--Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Did he ask for a lawyer?

Mr. Boyd.

Well, let me see, he wanted to get in touch with a lawyer--I believe it was a lawyer by the name of Abt [spelling] A-b-t in New York City.

Mr. Ball.

When did he say that? When did he tell you that?

Mr. Boyd.

It was either right before the first showup, or right after the first showup.

Mr. Ball.

What did you tell him?

Mr. Boyd.

Captain Fritz said he would--he didn't ask me, he was talking to Captain Fritz--yes.

Mr. Ball.

This was in Captain Fritz' office?

Mr. Boyd.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

What did Fritz say?

Mr. Boyd.

He said he would see if he could make arrangements later on for him to use the telephone later on and call him.

Mr. Ball.

Was anything said about who would pay for the call?

Mr. Boyd.

No, sir.

Mr. Ball.

No mention of that?

Mr. Boyd.

I think he said he would call collect--I'm not sure.

Mr. Ball.

Who said that---Oswald?

Mr. Boyd.

Oswald.

Mr. Ball.

Now, after the murder complaint was signed, what did you do?

Mr. Boyd.

Well, let me see, I believe after that was signed, Mr. Clements---I believe, came in there.

Mr. Ball.

In where?

Mr. Boyd.

In Captain Fritz' office, and started talking to Lee Oswald.

Mr. Ball.

And do you remember what he asked him?

Mr. Boyd.

Well, I know he asked him about his name and I think he asked him where he was born, I think, and he asked him about his life in Russia--when he went to Russia and when he came back--I don't recall all of that.

Mr. Ball.

And Oswald answered the questions?

Mr. Boyd.

Yes, sir; I'll tell you--Oswald, he answered his questions until he finally--well, this interrogation was interrupted by another showup, and after we came back up Mr. Clements continued his interrogation and finally Oswald told him he was just tired talking and he thought he had talked long enough and he didn't have anything else to say.
He came in there and he wanted to get a little well, he told him he wanted to get a little of his personal history and background, and Oswald finally got up and said, "What started out to be a short interrogation turned out to be rather lengthy," and he said, "I believe I have answered all the questions I have cared to answer, and I don't care to say anything else." And sat back down.

Mr. Ball.

He stood up and said that, did he?

Mr. Boyd.

Yes; he stood up and said it. He just sat back in the chair and said, "I don't care to talk any more."

Mr. Ball.

The first interrogation by Clements was interrupted, wasn't it?

Mr. Boyd.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

That was interrupted by a showup, and that would be the third showup that you participated in?

Mr. Boyd.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

And that took place at what time?

Mr. Boyd.

It was 7:30, let me see, no--7:40.