Mr. Boyd.

Well, let me think--some of them had coats and slacks and one of them--let's see I don't recall what color, but some of them--I don't believe any of them had a tie on--the officers had taken their ties off and I think Ables, I believe, was in his shirt sleeves.

Mr. Ball.

Without a tie did he have a tie on?

Mr. Boyd.

No, sir; I don't believe so.

Mr. Ball.

Ables was in his shirt sleeves. What about the two officers, Perry?

Mr. Boyd.

Now, I remember Perry had on a coat, but he didn't have his shirt buttoned back up at the top, I remember that.

Mr. Ball.

What about Clark?

Mr. Boyd.

As I remember, Clark had on a white shirt. Now, I'm not sure--- well, I'm not sure if he had on a coat or not, but I remember seeing him in a white shirt as he came in.

Mr. Ball.

Were they manacled--handcuffed?

Mr. Boyd.

Yes; they were handcuffed.

Mr. Ball.

All four of them?

Mr. Boyd.

Yes--handcuffed together.

Mr. Ball.

What did Oswald have on?

Mr. Boyd.

Well, he had on some I believe it was dark slacks--it seems like it was a brown shirt he had on--he had on a long-sleeved shirt. It seems like he had on a jacket when he first came up there I'm not too sure about that jacket--I know he had on a sport shirt and slacks.

Mr. Ball.

Well, his clothes were a little rougher in character than the other three, weren't they?

Mr. Boyd.

Well, could have been.

Mr. Ball.

The other three were better dressed than Oswald, would you say?

Mr. Boyd.

Well, yes, sir; I would say they probably were.

Mr. Ball.

Oswald had a shirt that had a frayed elbow, didn't he, a hole in the elbow, didn't he?

Mr. Boyd.

I don't recall if he did or not--I'm not sure.

Mr. Ball.

Now, when they asked questions of Oswald at this showup, did he reply?

Mr. Boyd.

I believe he did at that one--I believe he did reply.

Mr. Ball.

Was he angry?

Mr. Boyd.

I don't believe he was too angry.

Mr. Ball.

Did he shout or yell in a loud voice?

Mr. Boyd.

I don't recall him shouting.

Mr. Ball.

He didn't shout or speak in a loud voice at this time?

Mr. Boyd.

No.

Mr. Ball.

Did he at some other showup protest?

Mr. Boyd.

I heard he did, but I don't know.

Mr. Ball.

Were you present?

Mr. Boyd.

I wasn't present at that one.

Mr. Ball.

You weren't present at any time in which he made any protest of the type of showup?

Mr. Boyd.

No, sir; I don't believe so.

Mr. Ball.

This day--this first showup did he protest that it was not a fair showup?

Mr. Boyd.

I don't recall if he did.

Mr. Ball.

Did he at any time tell you after the showup that he didn't think it was fair to put those men in with him?

Mr. Boyd.

He didn't tell me that---no, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Did he ever tell you that any showup had been unfair?

Mr. Boyd.

Not that I recall.

Mr. Ball.

Now, did you hear any conversation that went on in the audience part of the showup?

Mr. Boyd.

No, sir; I couldn't---I don't recall any of it---I couldn't hear anything.

Mr. Ball.

Did you know any of the witnesses that were out there?

Mr. Boyd.

I couldn't see them.

Mr. Ball.

Did you take any witnesses statements from people who were out in the audience?