Mr. Johnson.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Belin.

As a detective?

Mr. Johnson.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Belin.

On November 22, 1963, were you on duty?

Mr. Johnson.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Belin.

Did you have anything to do with the Presidential motorcade?

Mr. Johnson.

No, sir.

Mr. Belin.

At approximately what time did you find out about the shooting of the President, to the best of your recollection?

Mr. Johnson.

Must have been about 12:40, I guess.

Mr. Belin.

What did you do after you found out about it?

Mr. Johnson.

Returned to the office.

Mr. Belin.

Returned to your office?

Mr. Johnson.

Yes.

Mr. Belin.

Had you been out on duty in a patrol car away from the office at the time?

Mr. Johnson.

Yes, sir. We had just made an arrest prior to checking out on a hijacking.

Mr. Belin.

Did you have a chance to eat that day or not? I mean lunch.

Mr. Johnson.

No, sir; didn't eat lunch.

Mr. Belin.

Well, you got back to the office. Then what did you do?

Mr. Johnson.

I was instructed by Lieutenant Wells to go to the Texas Book Depository.

Mr. Belin.

To go to the Texas Book Depository?

Mr. Johnson.

Yes.

Mr. Belin.

About what time did you get there?

Mr. Johnson.

Around 1 o'clock.

Mr. Belin.

Where did you go when you got there?

Mr. Johnson.

To the sixth floor.

Mr. Belin.

Any particular reason why you went to the sixth floor?

Mr. Johnson.

When we first arrived, we asked--we walked into the building and there was a uniform officer on duty there at the door, and we asked him if Captain Fritz was there, and he said yes.
And we asked him where, and he said he went on up to the sixth floor.
So at that time we were interested really in contacting Captain Fritz for any particular assignment he might want to give us, so we went on up to the sixth floor, and he was there, and that is when he assigned L. D. Montgomery, my partner and myself to the scene where the shooting occurred.

Mr. Belin.

When he assigned it to you, did he say anything that this was the scene where the shooting occurred, or did he just assign an area at that time which you later found out to be the scene from which the shooting occurred?

Mr. Johnson.

We had already been there a few minutes when he told us to stay there and preserve the scene. Actually at the time he told us that, we knew that that was where the shooting had occurred, because that is, the hulls were on the floor. We knew all that already.

Mr. Belin.

In other words, when you got there, or when you talked to Captain Fritz, the hulls, the three hulls had already been found in a particular portion of the sixth floor, is that correct?

Mr. Johnson.

Yes, sir; I had heard somebody already say. I had already seen them.

Mr. Belin.

You mentioned the No. 3, is that how many there were?

Mr. Johnson.

Yes.

Mr. Belin.

Do you know or remember what portion of the sixth floor this was?

Mr. Johnson.

Well, yes; they were underneath a window right near a window.

Mr. Belin.

On what side of the building was the window on, north, east, south, or west?

Mr. Johnson.

That is east. The window is actually on the south side of the building, and the window is the farthest east.

Mr. Belin.

The window would be the furtherest east window on the south side of the building, is that correct?