Mr. Specter.

Dr. HUNT. No; he had not.

Mr. Specter.

And where did you go when you left the President's room?
Dr. HUNT. Straight across to operating room 2.

Mr. SPECTER. And what did you find in operating room 2 when you arrived there?
Dr. HUNT. Governor Connally was present there and--

Mr. Specter.

What doctors, if any, were present when you arrived?

Dr. HUNT. Red Duke I'm sorry,. I just don't remember who the others were. There were three or four.
Mr. SPECTER. What action was being taken with respect to Governor Connally upon your arrival there?
Dr. HUNT. They were placing chest tubes, as a matter of fact, they had one in and were putting the other one in, and were--they had an I.V. going, I believe someone had done a cutdown, and they were checking other wounds. He had a wound on his arm and another wound down on his leg, I think, and that was about it--preparing to take him promptly up to surgery.

Mr. Specter.

And what did you do on that occasion?
Dr. HUNT. I walked in and Dr. Duke looked up and the first thing I did was to look at the Governor--I took his pulse and he spoke to me and said something, and noted his color.

Mr. Specter.

What did the Governor say to you?

Dr. HUNT. He said something like, "It hurts," not anything real specific, but he did at least speak, and it was a conscious thought type of thing, so that he was more or less alert, responding, so then I stepped back into the hall and signaled a fellow, a medical student who has been in our department, that is rotating through anesthesia, and I happened to see him just outside the door, and I asked him to please go upstairs and bring me another unit of equipment and then came back in and told Dr. Duke I had sent for equipment, although I didn't believe the Governor was going to need it, and he said that he was very glad that I had and he, too, didn't think he would need it, but he should have it as a standby, and then they brought me a machine and my table down and I stayed with the Governor until he was ready to go upstairs, but he did not require any respiratory aid because he was not that critical.
Mr. SPECTER. Did you participate any further with the treatment of Governor Connally ?
Dr. HUNT. When we were ready to go upstairs, I went back to the room where the President was and Dr. Giesecke, who is a staff member from our department, appeared relatively free and I asked him if he would come and go upstairs with the Governor and I came on upstairs in a different route. I didn't go in the elevator with the Governor--Dr. Giesecke went with him, and helped Dr. Giesecke get under way with the surgery.

Mr. Specter.

How did you go upstairs, by what route?
Dr. HUNT. I don't know--I don't remember.

Mr. Specter.

Is there any other elevator going up to the operating rooms?
Dr. HUNT. Yes; there are four elevators.

Mr. Specter.

But do those lead from the emergency rooms?

Dr. HUNT. No; you come down this long hallway up to those of the ground floor.

Mr. Specter.

Is there more than one elevator for the stretcher to go through from the emergency room up to the second floor operating rooms?
Dr. HUNT. Yes; they can--they come up to these.

Mr. Specter.

What route would they have to take to do this?

Dr. HUNT. They would have to come directly out of the emergency room and down this main hallway to this front bank of elevators.

Mr. Specter.

That would be a pretty long route, would it not ?
Dr. HUNT. Actually, it isn't very long. I don't know in yards or paces even, but there are three elevators there.

Mr. Specter.

What route did Governor Connally use?

Dr. HUNT. I. think they took him by the back elevator, the one that comes down into the emergency room.
Mr. SPECTER. Is that the one they customarily use to take people from the emergency area into the operating room ?